Just started the Marestare cams

[happy appy]

Well Sugar has a cow patty in her stall tonight. She doesn't look loose enoughto foal but last time she didn't show any signs of foaling and she started pushing at 6 in the morning.

 

[cassie]

6am? wow thats a breakfast baby! LOL maybe she will do the same again...

 

[Equuisize]

Sounds good!

Maybe in the morning when we sign on there will

be a new wee one to see!

Fingers are crossed for you

 

[cassie]

would be even cooler if there was two!! Dreamer lying flat, outstretched sugar wit her helicopter tail watching Dreamer

 

[cassie]

two rolls from Dreamer, Sugar watching... come on

!!!

 

[Eagle]

tut tut no new baby this morning

Never mind she will give it up when she is ready, in the meantime I had better put the coffee on. Diane, Cassie, want some???

 

[Eagle]

expresso it is then.

 

[cassie]

LOL is hot choc available? I don't like coffee hehe shock horror I know.

I thought we would have had a new baby by now

 

[cassie]

COME ON DREAMER!!!!

 

[cassie]

I know i can't believe that she hasn't had it yet!!! POOR THING!!!

 

[Eagle]

With a pregnancy of over 355 days why did we think that she would have a quick labour????hahaaaa

 

[happy appy]

Dreamer is very uncomfortable these days but doesn't seem to be in a hurry to push that baby out! She is sitting at day 357 today. Still no udder really but relaxed in the back end.

Sugar is sitting at day 340 today! She also doesn't seem to be in a rush to get this baby out. No udder and not that relaxed in the back. Last year she foaled with only an udder and no other signs though.

The complication: I have multiple vets out and consulted yesterday and most feel that the girls have ben exposed to Fescue Toxicity from endophyte infected Fescue (found in all lawn seeds) Someone just developed property beside the girls pasture and seeded with lawnseed last year. The seed specialist and the vets feel that it would of infected the girls pasture with the fungus that causes issues to mares in foal. The main issues being prolonged gestation and lack of milk production. There are a couple more that we need to watch for and they are thickened sac and birthing complication. The vets don't want the girls outside unless walked on a lead, no grazing anywhere and I also brought in hay that wasn't local just in case. Dreamer had other complications also yesterday and the day before. She was straining while in the pee stance. The vets feel that this was from the baby sitting on her bladder in the birth canal. She worked for over 24 hours to move the baby along and this may of been from a thickened sac making it more difficult. None of the vets wants to start the girls on any meds that will bring in their milk, not knowing how long until they will deliver. Some of this info I was given yesterday but the most came this morning from the vets after they researched and consulted with other vets.

 

[Eagle]

Oh gosh sweety, you must be worried sick! Someone on here did ask a few days ago if this was an issue so I had a look on-line about the effects of fescue on pregnant mares. If the vets are involved I am sure all will go just fine. I am sending a big hug and prayers

 

[Chelley]

I sure hope all goes well for you and your mares. How can you verify if it is toxicity from fescue? Will anything show up in labwork? I lost both my foals this year, one in April from a mare that has foaled several without complications and one last Sunday from a maiden mare, both from terrible dystocias. They were not out on our pastures due to fescue and kept on dry lots but nibbled bits around the fence. Our vet said that would not be enough to cause problems, that they would have to be actively grazing in it. She told me just a run of bad luck for us, but I am looking for some "reason" that I can FIX. Just a SAD deal! I pray all goes well with your girls...sounds like you have a great team working with you, and lots of eyes watching! Thanks for the update.

 

[happy appy]

I sure hope all goes well for you and your mares. How can you verify if it is toxicity from fescue? Will anything show up in labwork? I lost both my foals this year, one in April from a mare that has foaled several without complications and one last Sunday from a maiden mare, both from terrible dystocias. They were not out on our pastures due to fescue and kept on dry lots but nibbled bits around the fence. Our vet said that would not be enough to cause problems, that they would have to be actively grazing in it. She told me just a run of bad luck for us, but I am looking for some "reason" that I can FIX. Just a SAD deal! I pray all goes well with your girls...sounds like you have a great team working with you, and lots of eyes watching! Thanks for the update.

It's not the fescue it's self it has to be infected with endophytes. This is what causes the issues. Most pasture mixes in canada have Fescue as a standard but is endophyte free.

 

[LittleRibbie]

Oh no, Im so sorry, now one more thing to worry about, your poor thing. Its easy I know for me to say, but you dont know for sure and vets are on top of it for you...Im going to stay positive and just hope Dreamer and Sugar are just taking a little longer than we hoped. They will both be fine! Positive thoughts need to be sent!! hugs

 

[Eagle]

Well said Diane. We lark around to keep each other company whilst we are glued to the screen, it is unlikely that your girls could do much without us seeing it. keep up your spirits as I am sure all will be just fine.

 

[breezy farm]

I'm sure your vet has told you all this but here is an informative article about endophyte toxicity in mares. Good reading and good to know. http://www.knowmycotoxins.com/nequine10.htm

 

[AnnaC]

So very sorry that you have had the news of the possibility of your girls being affected by your neighbours fields.

Sending you ((((HUGS)))) and saying prayers that any effects might simply be that they dont drop their milk until after foaling or that the foals might need your help to break their bags.

Have your vets done blood tests/can they do blood tests to find out how affected the girls might be? Sorry but I dont understand these things well - still learning.

Anna

 

[cassie]

Tina, I am so sorry. you poor thing Diane said it exactly right!! We are watching 247 and if any of the girls do anything we will know and let you know. try not to stress about it Dear, I know that it will be hard, but please know that you have excellent "aunties" watching both your girls EVERY move!! they are practically our own mares now too..(not literally of course hehe) we have been watching them night and day and will continue doing so till the birth of your two gorgeous HEALTHY foals!! try and get some rest tonight... we are all watching!!!

sending many hugs and prayers your way!!!