AMHA is dreaming on this one.Permanent certificates of registration shall be issued to qualified Miniature Horses who have attained the actual age of five (5) years, and measures thirty-four (34) inches or less in height, measured at the base of the last hairs of the mane while standing squarely on a level surface, and have met all the requirements of the Association. All horses going permanent will do so after achieving the required age and being measured by an AMHA certified measurer.
NO flames just confusion those as you call them backyard breeders who have fuzzy pets well do you realize they bring in WAY more $ to the registry then those in the small percentage that show?keep them as pets, but I do have a problem with them voting on an important issue regrading the show process when they don't even know what a show is . . . .
I am not in this for flaming, Matt. However, I also must disagree with what you state is your reasoning to support keeping the current voting system. You say that "...most, if not all of those 60 people are informed on all of the issues..." I have a hard time believing that. I believe that each person has maybe one of two issues that may affect them that they are willing to spend time and money to promote, and the time and financial ability to do that at a meeting. Your statement that "they didn't all ban together before the meeting and put together a conspiracy to destroy the organization..." Do you really believe that?Maybe only 60 people show up for the annual meeting, however most if not all of those 60 people are informed on all of the issues, and they didn't all ban together before the meeting and put together a conspiracy to destroy the organization. I believe that they are trying to do what they think is best. Also, discussions are held out the meeting, structured discussions where people can state and more importantly hear other valid points from other informed members, which could possibly change their mind, or persuade them one way or the other. This is an important process in any "debate" and very important when making big decisions.
When an issue is important to people, I believe that they take the time to promote that issue with many, many people, emailing their support and reasoning for supporting an issue before a meeting. Have you not contacted anyone about disagreeing with these proposals and why you think people should work together to make sure these issues don't pass? I'm sure people have even "banned" together with a purpose to move forward an issue or two, meeting at shows or club meetings or just emailing their friends. I'm sure many thought processes have been worked out before hand in support of or against issues facing the registry. But most important is that prior discussions of the issues is not a conspiracy to destroy the organization.
You’ve stated that "...they are trying to do what they think is best..." I believe that this is everyone's intent. But we can see here that what you think is best is in disagreement with others here who have responded. And I'm sure there are others that have not responded here that are on "both sides" of the issue. But why should the 60 people with financial and/or time means available to them be the only ones whose opinions are considered in the overall functioning of the registry? Why are "their best intentions" any more important that others best intentions? I think realistically, KayKay is right, in that for sure, people have their own agenda when voting, and are not concerned for what is “best” for AMHA, rather what is “best” for what they want to accomplish.
Having voting limited to the 60 people in attendance certainly makes it much easier to get something passed, since you only have to “convince” –or, for that matter—“confuse” a fewer number of people for “just a few minutes”.
Isn't that what we're doing here? Or can structured discussions only be held at the meeting? Personally, I like having the time to think about people's statements, delving into the issue myself, rather than accepting what is said 2 minutes before a vote. I think that in some regards those types of "flash" decisions, supported by someone's "eloquence" mixed with a person's inability to take time to consider a statement, research the truth or consider the impact of a proposal is how some of these problems have arisen.Also, discussions are held out the meeting, structured discussions where people can state and more importantly hear other valid points from other informed members, which could possibly change their mind, or persuade them one way or the other.
Thousands of small breeders foot the bill for the registries. Their fees and money cover show losses and other “poor decision making.” These smaller farms are the backbone of the registries, and should have an impact on showing rules and decision making. They are the “reality” that so many are facing. It sounds more like you are afraid if their impact on an “agenda” rather than “in general”. When does a backyard “John Smith” become a “breeder” or a person of importance? How many horses should a person own to be considered someone who can “render an opinion?” Everyone owning minis started with just one—so when did some become important and others stay “unimportant?”If this new mail in way is passed, we will now have hundreds and thousands of backyard "John Smiths" who don't have a clue who bought their fuzzy pet mini for $25 at an auction, voting on very important issues. Did anyone consider this? Have you thought about how this could affect the outcome of the voting? Do you realize that many of these people might be paper work savvy and can handle sending in a ballot but can't even find the withers on their horse? Or don't even know what an AMHA rated show is . . .”Before you flame me, I have no problem with back yard mini owners who only keep them as pets, but I do have a problem with them voting on an important issue regarding the show process when they don't even know what a show is . . .”
KayKay, I think you have summed it up very well: “…I do think in this economic environment both registries are going to have to start looking at where the majority of their money comes from and start supporting the small farms more and stop overlooking them because they cant attend convention or they don’t actively show. IMO how often you show has zero to do with important bylaws and regulations of any given registry…” Amen.
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