Question for republicans

[Danielle_E.]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/06/m...r_n_132366.html

Needless to say I am TOTALLY disgusted with Sarah Palin now, I have absolutely lost any respect I had for this woman BECAUSE she should have asked her supporters to cease this kind of talk but SHE DID NOT!!! This IS A FACT, not the ridiculous statements coming out of the VP candidate for the republicans. Talk about inciting hatred. The republican ticket has taken this WAY too far and I hope that this kind of behaviour loses the presidency for them. They do not deserve it. I can just imagine what mess they would cause in the foreign scene., heaven help us all in this world if that was allowed. World war III I wouldn't be surprised if they can't control the way they behave and speak. It's one thing to be a "pit bull" it's quite another to be an "ignorant pitbull" and that is what I think of her and the republican ticket now. I know that if McCain is succesful in his bid as president and Palin is the VP I will have lost total respect for the government of the U.S.A.

For those of you who are republicans my question is "Is this kind of behaviour from your candidates acceptable to you"? and do you feel that this is just part and parcel to an election?

 

[CyndiM]

Ok I'll answer, and this is only MY personal opinion.

First, this IS the Huffington Post, not the most unbiased paper in the country.

Second, (I may not get this word for word) "The secret service agents didn't hear anything, no threatening statements were reported to them by law enforcement or citizens." And it seems no one knows if it was said who it was directed at Obama or Ayers and there seems to be some doubt as to if the words were 'kill' and 'him'.

Third, could it have been a Democrat protester who wanted to kill McCain?

I really see nothing in the article you posted that would cause WWIII. How is it she is responsible for things people shout out in the crowd? Have you ever attended one of these events? I have a banner in my car trunk that a protester displayed during a McCain/Palin speech in Cedar Rapids. Those three girls were escorted out after the banner was torn from their hands by a friend of mine who then gave it to me. That was during her speech then during McCain's speech a girl got up on the shoulders of a guy and started yelling cr*p, he started yelling and so did another girl and boy (these were all college kids) they were also escorted out by the local law enforcement. There were other protesters who showed up demanding to know where their "Free Speech" area was.

So again I ask who was this person yelling about McCain, Obama or Ayers?

Ayers is a known terrorist, he has admitted to the bombings and has also said he is only sorry he didn't do more damage. What a nice guy. I would be embarrassed to admit I knew him if I did!

I will very openly say I am scared to think of what will happen should Obama be elected.

 

[laughingllama75]

Let me get this straight.......Governor Palin needs to control a person in the crowd, while Senator Obama's pastor can spew hatred against whites, for 20 years and he sat there and did nothing? Oh, I forgot. He "left" that church (not because he felt it was the right thing to do, only because he was pressured into it).

this just goes to show, it doesn't matter what side a person is on.....we always think "our side" is the only side. I generally try not to get into these conversations, but man........I couldn't help it this time.

I agree with the fact being racisit (sp?) in NOT cool......and I would think we should have evolved past that point......but it is on both sides, black and white.

 

[Minimor]

I'm trying to figure out how Sarah Palin--or any speaker--is supposed to control the utterances of every person in the crowd. If she was the one saying Kill Obama....or Kill Anyone, whoever "him" might be....if "Kill him" was even an exact quote, and there seems to be some question about that...If Sarah was the one actually saying someone should be killed, then I would say that was very wrong of her.

But Sarah Palin did not say that, or at least I cannot see anywhere that anyone is even hinting that she said that or anything like it, and I fail to see how she can be responsible for things said by a heckler in the crowd. I'm quite sure that a "people, please play nice" from her would have had no effect on such a heckler in the crowd. It's commonplace for speakers everywhere to ignore such utterances from the crowd, for to acknowledge an utterance like that simply serves to lend credibility to the words.

How do we know that the person who yelled out those words was a Republican? Perhaps it was someone planted by the Democrats in an effort to discredit Sarah Palin? Did you consider that possibility?

 

[AppyLover2]

I will very openly say I am scared to think of what will happen should Obama be elected.

I used to feel that way but with all the hate surrounding this campaign I'm afraid of what will happen whether he's elected or not. I think either way it's going to be a really bad time for this country. I'm afraid there will be a war...but it won't be WWIII. I pray to God I'm wrong for everyone's sake.

 

[anita]

This Huffinger woman is from a marxist state in Europe according to her accent. Does someone know from where she is?

Rumania I guess. Google the history of this country you will be surprised.

What does she know

 

[Basketmiss]

It is amazing that someone would blame Sarah Palin for what someone in the audience says!! Come on- can we all say what we want or not? She didnt make them say this, If it was kill, might not have been. Doesnt matter-she doesnt control their mouths!

How about when McCain asked "Who is Barrack Obama" someone in the crowd yelled a terrorist- McCain was shocked by this, paused and went on-he cant control what someone in the audience says, so it isnt his fault or in his control what someone thinks or spouts off!

Come on and open your eyes and see what is starring you right in the face...

 

[Cathy_H]

It should not be permitted no matter who is speaking.......... What gets me is why people who are blaming Palin will not see anything wrong with Obama's "bedfellows". Too many roads leading to too many questionable people and they still will not pull off the blindfolds..................................... Folks if Obama is elected he WILL OWE someone & that someone WILL NOT have you nor your Country's best interests at heart. You WILL go down with the rest of us!

 

[Danielle_E.]

This also appears in the Washington Post and other papers, I believe that the Washington Post is the one that reported this first. When a candidate uses words in her/his speech during a rally such as "terrorist" etc you are darn right it will bring out some of the

cases in the audience. Those that take it to heart and believe with all his/her heart that Obama is a terrorist or her rhetoric about what Obama supposedly said about the troops, etc. Yes she is responsible for inciting this kind of behaviour. The people in the audience are replying to statements she is making. For such a supposed christian person I find her extremely two faced, sorry just my opinion. The campaign has got so out of hand and away from issues that like others I am truly concerned that some

case will try and assasinate Obama should he be successful and become President of the United States. I can only imagine what would happen in the U.S. if this did happen. You would have civil unrest that is for sure, at the very least. It certainly doesn't help the image of the U.S. when these rallies are shown on t.v. worldwide. It is a small word after all because of it. We keep hearing Americans saying that your country is one of tolerance. This is not what is being potrayed and it brings the image back of the 1960s. This is a big step backwards in image. Everyone has the right to feel the way they do, freedom of speech but at what cost? All candidates, McCain/Palin and Obama/Biden have to ensure that stick to the issues and show what each group will bring to the Presidency. All this other stuff is not helping and will only fuel bigotry, hatred. As someone said, this will just keep your country divided after the election as well which is so sad expecially with the difficult times that are ahead without adding this to the mix.

 

[Danielle_E.]

It is amazing that someone would blame Sarah Palin for what someone in the audience says!! Come on- can we all say what we want or not? She didnt make them say this, If it was kill, might not have been. Doesnt matter-she doesnt control their mouths!
How about when McCain asked "Who is Barrack Obama" someone in the crowd yelled a terrorist- McCain was shocked by this, paused and went on-he cant control what someone in the audience says, so it isnt his fault or in his control what someone thinks or spouts off!

Come on and open your eyes and see what is starring you right in the face...

Of course you are not responsible if someone yells such a thing out IF you are not inciting the crowd. Ignorance breeds ignorance. I wonder what young people (non-voting) think of this rhetoric if they are listening to the campaigns? I don't think adults are being very good role models in this instance. Palin/McCain continue over and over again on inuendos, on personal attacks that are the lowest of the low. If they want to attack Obama than they should stick to attacking his policies and what he is saying he wants to do if he should become President. The other stuff they are throwing out there is nothing but nasty and crass garbage. Do they not realize how that makes them look? Are these the tactics of a potential presidential candidate in the face of adversity and perhaps a loss in seeking to be president? Is this the kind of rhetoric that will be used in the international scene with leaders of other countries that may not tow the line as far as the U.S. is concerned? If it is the way they would rule office than I do truly feel that this may cause a war and I am being very sincere when saying that. This is not the way a President should act. JMHO

 

[SweetOpal]

I can only imagine what would happen in the U.S. if this did happen. You would have civil unrest that is for sure, at the very least. It certainly doesn't help the image of the U.S. when these rallies are shown on t.v. worldwide.

Well thank goodness YOU live in Canada!

 

[Minimor]

The campaign has got so out of hand and away from issues that like others I am truly concerned that some case will try and assasinate Obama should he be successful and become President of the United States.

Danielle, if he becomes president and if he gets assassinated, I seriously doubt that it will be because of anything that has been done or said by anyone in this campaign.
I have heard from several people in all different parts of the US that they fear he will be assassinated by one of two groups in the US and I'm quite sure that neither of these groups nor their members are being influenced by anything said at any of the speeches or rallies, whether it is the speaker or members of the audience that are saying them!

I fear what kind of a mess there will be if these people are right--but if it comes to pass I don't believe it will be the fault of Palin or McCain.

 

[Basketmiss]

I agree, no-one should be allowed to speak about someone else that way-but it does happen in our world. We cant control it no matter how much we want it to stop-thats the freedom of speech deal...

I dont agree that Sarah instigated it. You could say some really bad things to me and that wouldnt MAKE me start spouting off terrorist or lets kill someone!

We are all responsible for our own thoughts, what we say, what we do- I dont believe anyone can MAKE you, its a nice excuse tho to say well she got those people razzed up so then all because of her they started spouting off outrageous things... So it is her fault, No it is the person who said its fault. They apparently have these bad feelings towards the person (in this case-O ) to start with... I dont say those are reasonable thoughts, I say that is how someone might have felt..

I am worried about what MIGHT happen if O gets in- I mean for his actual safety....

 

[Danielle_E.]

Well thank goodness YOU live in Canada!

You're right and very astute of you

and your absolutely right, the U.S. is an island and nothing done in the U.S. affects their neighbour to the North

or anyone else, I forgot about that. How absolutely silly of us who don't reside in the U.S. to forget that.

 

[Sonya]

When a candidate uses words in her/his speech during a rally such as "terrorist"

Bill Ayers IS a terrorist...that is a fact, she was stating a fact. I don't know how you can blame her for what someone says in the audience, that's just ridiculous.

If you feel that what a stranger in the audience says speaks of Palin's character, then I wonder what you think of Rev. Wright's sermuns, that must speak loads and loads about Obama's character?

The heckler in the crowd went to see Palin speak...Obama went to see Wright speak..for 20 years I might add.

 

[McBunz]

Bill Ayers WAS a terrorist. Nobody is denying this.. He is now into Education reform and it has been said over and over on the news

that anyone into Education reform knows this man.. Are they all guilty by association.?????. So by spewing this over and over is insighting hate.

 

[SweetOpal]

Well thank goodness YOU live in Canada!

You're right and very astute of you

and your absolutely right, the U.S. is an island and nothing done in the U.S. affects their neighbour to the North

or anyone else, I forgot about that. How absolutely silly of us who don't reside in the U.S. to forget that.

Just out of curiosity, what is it that you think either of the choices is going to help or hurt your country of Canada? How and what is Obama going to do that is going to benefit you verses how McCain being elected is going to destroy Canada? You only seem to bring up these things about the rest of the world when someone commends you for living in another country and having such deep roots to our election, so I am curious as to what you are expecting?

 

[minimama]

Danielle,

I have a suggestion. Since every time you post I go and read to see if maybe this time you have something worthwhile to actually add instead of just spewing what you read in biased newspapers and see on biased television, maybe you could take some of that time away from these unproductive actions and put together a plan of salvation for our country. You do not seem to have time to work on your own, but definitely have plenty to work on ours so, I would absolutely love to hear what your plan of attack would be to fix our current situation here in the US. And this has nothing to do with who wins or loses the election here. It has nothign to do with any candidate. I want to hear what you are going to do to fix our economy, our laws, our debt, etc. You are trying so hard to present yourself as intelligent, informed, and well read, I am curious to see what you have in mind.

And no, I am not being sarcastic, I really would like to read what you have to say on how you would fix this. You have yet to show us you are informed about what goes on here, about what it is like to live here and be a part of this country, although you have certainly made attempts at doing so. So, prove me wrong, prove you have a clue about what you try so hard to convince us of. According to what you keep posting, if you can solve the US's problems, you will sovle the problems of the world. Because evidently if we sneeze here, Europe wipes their nose. Maybe this is part of the problem. Maybe other countries need to stand on their own and let us do the same. Maybe we need to stop worrying so much about how everyone else in the world is doing and start to finally focus on fixing what is going on right here. Oh but then that would be MY plan not yours, so let's hear yours.

I'll wait.

 

[Sonya]

How about learning about the REAL Sara Palin??HERE

beginning of the article....Lucille, the waitress...now that's a reliable source!

edited to add:

Palin has an 80% approval rate in Alaska from the info I've seen. That's pretty good if you ask me.

 

[OhHorsePee]

I so have to laugh about all of this. It's ok for one party member to be linked to and associated with terrorists, fraudulent organizations (to which he paid them $800,000), can skip out on 45% of his senate votes but still get paid by us tax payers etc etc but dang it if a woman who is in the run for VP (not even president) and she is dirt. I am just beyond baffled about how many years you people want us women to go back in our rights to run for something like this. Why don't we just have women not allowed to vote anymore even. Go back to barefoot and pregnant so we can start this all over and tell our daughters no they can't be president or even vise president one day. Someone might not like something they say or the clothes they wear.