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From today - think we're getting closer!

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Thanks Lexi. I'm actually very nervous as she is a maiden and tiny although Diane has reassured me about size. I've been so enjoying watching your mare. She was adorable this morning.and I'm following your thread anxiously awaiting your news.
 
Looks like she's moving forward! We're here for you and this precious little momma!
 
Well, I think we're getting close. She's definitely starting to wax and for the first time ever, she got really annoyed with me when I was underneath checking. Usually she could care less. I'll do photos tomorrow. She's not acting strange though and still eating like the horse she is
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So now I think it's between Ryan, Lexi and me for next baby.
 
Coat color question - Madeline is a pintaloosa bred to a black and white tobiano who is hetrozygous and black based. I can't get the coat color chart to factor in pintaloosa. Any thoughts on the coat color of the baby? I'll be happy with healthy but just curious about what might pop out.

Thanks.
 
What was the breeding on Madeline? I know that Grosshill EK Undisputed Creation was once a black pinto that greyed out, but what was her dam? When I look her up in AMHA, I don't see any appaloosa in the pedigree -- so wondering where she got those spots? But I know how WRONG the registries can be regarding colors and patterning. So, was mom really showing spots? Because according to what's in the pedigree, I don't see she's pintaloosa bred -- as dad was a greyed out black pinto, and according to the pedigree in AMHA, mom was a solid black. But it's obvious she's showing some type of lacey blanket -- does she have any other appaloosa traits? Any mottling, striped hooves....anything?

RFM IMA SWEET CREATION
Pedigree report
03/09/2014


****1***2***3***4***5***6***7***8***9****************************************
| | | | | HERCULES VANT HUTTENEST - UNREG.
| | | | DELL TERAS GENERAL LEE II - I 00820
| | | | |[04/27/1974 : S : SBK : BD : DC : 31.000]
| | | | | | NEGUS DE MURY MARAIS - UNREG.
| | | | | SITELLE VANT HUTTENEST - R 01631P
| | | | | |[05/23/1964 : M : RNB : - : - : 31.500]
| | | | | | | IMAN DU MURY MARAIS - UNREG.
| | | | | | NIELLE VANT HUTTENEST - R 01621P
| | | | | | |[04/12/1971 : M : RNB : - : - : 31.500]
| | | | | | | HIRONDELLE DU MURY MARAIS - UNREG.
| | | HEMLOCK BROOKS EGYPTIAN KING - A 04550
| | | |[03/04/1980 : S : DGR : BD : - : 31.250]
| | | | DELL TERAS LADY OF SPAIN - UNREG.
| | NFC EGYPTIAN KINGS CREATION - A 32767
| | |[05/05/1990 : S : SGR : BD : - : 29.000]
| | | | | | | UNKNOWN - UNREG.
| | | | | | OHIO MASTERPIECE - R 00831P
| | | | | | |[01/01/1971 : S : SCS : - : DC : 27.500]
| | | | | | | UNKNOWN - UNREG.
| | | | | OHIOS LITTLE TOY - R 01493P
| | | | | |[04/10/1974 : S : SBA : - : - : 30.000]
| | | | | | OHIO RED LADY - UNREG.
| | | | OHIOS MEADOW MUFFIN - R 03405T
| | | | |[04/02/1979 : S : SBK : - : DC : 29.000]
| | | | | | | UNKNOWN - UNREG.
| | | | | | OHIO MASTERPIECE - R 00831P
| | | | | | |[01/01/1971 : S : SCS : - : DC : 27.500]
| | | | | | | UNKNOWN - UNREG.
| | | | | OHIOS LITTLE QUEENIE - R 01653P
| | | | | |[01/02/1974 : M : SBA : - : VO : 32.000]
| | | | | | | UNKNOWN - UNREG.
| | | | | | OHIOS MINI MISS - R 00835P
| | | | | | |[01/01/1968 : M : SCS : - : - : 33.500]
| | | | | | | UNKNOWN - UNREG.
| | | SUNDANCE SOLID GOLD - IT04252
| | | |[07/22/1983 : M : SSR : - : - : 32.750]
| | | | FLYING W FARMS GYPSY GOLD - UNREG.
| GROSSHILL EK UNDISPUTED CREATION - A 74782
| |[03/12/1996 : S : PBK : PD : - : 33.750]
| | | | GOLDEN PENNYS PRINCE CHARMING - UNREG.
| | | SHADOW OAKS PAUL BUNYAN - I 00001B
| | | |[12/15/1969 : S : PGR : - : DC : 32.500]
| | | | | JOLLYS PRINCE F P R - UNREG.
| | | | LITTLE TEX FANCY - R 00225P
| | | | |[09/02/1962 : M : SWT : - : DC : 32.750]
| | | | | TEX FANCY - UNREG.
| | HIDDEN MEADOWS VANITY FAIR - A 24532
| | |[06/22/1988 : M : PBK : DN : - : 30.000]
| | | | | | GOLDEN PENNYS PRINCE CHARMING - UNREG.
| | | | | SHADOW OAKS PAUL BUNYAN - I 00001B
| | | | | |[12/15/1969 : S : PGR : - : DC : 32.500]
| | | | | | | JOLLYS PRINCE F P R - UNREG.
| | | | | | LITTLE TEX FANCY - R 00225P
| | | | | | |[09/02/1962 : M : SWT : - : DC : 32.750]
| | | | | | | TEX FANCY - UNREG.
| | | | SHADOW OAKS WILLIAM HENERY - I 01797
| | | | |[04/06/1978 : S : PPA : DN : VO : 30.500]
| | | | | | GOLDEN TOY - UNREG.
| | | | | GOLDEN MIST - I 01029B
| | | | | |[05/02/1975 : M : SPA : - : - : 34.000]
| | | | | | CHOCOLATE DROP - UNREG.
| | | SHADOW OAKS CONFETTI - A 08284
| | | |[03/30/1984 : M : PCS : - : - : 30.750]
| | | | | UNKNOWN - UNREG.
| | | | LADY VIEJO - I 00709B
| | | | |[01/01/1968 : M : PGR : - : - : 34.000]
| | | | | UNKNOWN - UNREG.
RFM IMA SWEET CREATION - A 202267
|[04/25/2010 : M : PBK : - : RV : 00.000]
| | | | | UNKNOWN - UNREG.
| | | | KOMOKOS KING TUT - R 00242P
| | | | |[01/01/1968 : G : SBA : BT : DC : 30.000]
| | | | | UNKNOWN - UNREG.
| | | KOMOKOS LITTLE HUSSELER - R 02360P
| | | |[05/01/1974 : S : SDN : BT : - : 26.500]
| | | | KOMOKOS LADY BUG - UNREG.
| | KOMOKOS LITTLE KING SUPREME - R 02914T
| | |[06/04/1978 : S : SBA : BT : - : 27.000]
| | | | | UNKNOWN - UNREG.
| | | | KOMOKOS MOUNTAIN BOY - R 00243P
| | | | |[01/01/1966 : S : SSR : - : - : 30.500]
| | | | | UNKNOWN - UNREG.
| | | KOMOKOS TEENIE JEANIE - R 01534P
| | | |[09/11/1974 : M : SBA : - : - : 28.500]
| | | | | UNKNOWN - UNREG.
| | | | KOMOKOS SALLY - A 04101
| | | | |[01/01/1967 : M : DGR : - : DC : 31.000]
| | | | | UNKNOWN - UNREG.
| IMA SWEETIE SUPREME - A 72996
| |[04/14/1995 : M : SBK : DN : - : 31.500]
| | | | | VOLMAR - UNREG.
| | | | IRSUL VANT HUTTENEST - I 00305
| | | | |[01/01/1968 : S : SBK : - : DC : 29.000]
| | | | | URSULA - UNREG.
| | | LITTLE KINGS BLACK SAM - A 06847
| | | |[05/09/1983 : S : SBK : - : VO : 28.500]
| | | | | | | UNKNOWN - UNREG.
| | | | | | KOMOKOS MOUNTAIN BOY - R 00243P
| | | | | | |[01/01/1966 : S : SSR : - : - : 30.500]
| | | | | | | UNKNOWN - UNREG.
| | | | | KOMOKOS SUNDANCE - R 00818P
| | | | | |[01/01/1970 : S : SCS : - : - : 29.500]
| | | | | | | UNKNOWN - UNREG.
| | | | | | KOMOKOS LITTLE SAD SACK - A 05780
| | | | | | |[01/01/1966 : M : SBK : - : - : 31.500]
| | | | | | | UNKNOWN - UNREG.
| | | | KOMOKOS MISS HO JO - R 02463P
| | | | |[04/16/1977 : M : SCS : - : DC : 30.000]
| | | | | | UNKNOWN - UNREG.
| | | | | KOMOKOS MUFFIN - R 00129P
| | | | | |[06/10/1971 : M : SBA : - : DC : 33.000]
| | | | | | UNKNOWN - UNREG.
| | TAHITI SWEETIE - A 19471
| | |[05/09/1987 : M : SBK : DN : - : 32.000]
| | | | UNKNOWN - UNREG.
| | | A LITTLE SPICE OF LIFE - I 00349B
| | | |[06/29/1974 : M : SBK : - : - : 34.000]
| | | | UNKNOWN - UNREG.
****1***2***3***4***5***6***7***8***9****************************************
 
Diane, interesting. She definitely has spots on her shoulders and on her rump. Most are hairy now but you can see them clearly when she sheds out. Nothing on her hooves and no appy characteristics other than those spots that I see so I guess I'm wrong in thinking she's a pintaloosa? Her dam is IMA Sweetie Supreme and her grandsire is Komokos Little King Supreme on her dams side and her granddam is Tahiti Sweetie.

So I guess she's a pinto then? Interesting and thanks!
 
No, that blanket is definitely showing there is some spotting in there somewhere! But with the sock, she's got pinto going on too, as that is a pinto trait. So, she's showing signs of both genes, but normally we say they are pintaloosa bred when one parent is pinto and one parent appaloosa. It will be quite interesting to see how baby turns out. It will definitely be a black based pinto (from dad's homozygous side), but it could actually have some spotting going on with momma having some appaloosa genes from someone in her line ! Many of the Van't Huttenest horses had some appy going on, so it could be coming from that line, as well as any of those 'unreg' horses. Now, I can't wait to see this baby even more!
 
Thanks so much Diane. I really appreciate all the help you give us. I can't wait to see Babycakes (as I call him) either but just want him safely on the ground. He was kicking up a storm yesterday and was so thrilling to feel.

Update - checked Madeline's hooves this morning and she has two black and white striped hooves!!! I'm thinking that's appy or am I wrong. Still learning.
 
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Striped hooves is an appy trait. Some people say pintos also have striped hooves, but I've never seen that, but I KNOW it's an appy trait! She may also show some mottling in her privates or inside the vulva or mouth. Sometimes they are very creative of hiding their traits!
 
Hi Cassie! She's fine. I think we're a week or two out still. I'll try to do photos today but there's not much progress except she is round!
 
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Nothing going on with Madeline but didn't want to hijack Lexi's thread but just wanted to say how awesome it is to wake up and see these foals safely on the ground. It's such a thrill and so happy for everyone. Here's to more foals safely on the ground.
 
Nothing going on with Madeline but didn't want to hijack Lexi's thread but just wanted to say how awesome it is to wake up and see these foals safely on the ground. It's such a thrill and so happy for everyone. Here's to more foals safely on the ground.
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