AMHA World Show Awards

[mistyrose]

There was an AOTE (Amateur Owned Trained Exhibited) sponsored premium paid in the AOTE classes that was paid to 5 places that added up to $2600 per class.

The Supreme was given a large cash award of $7000.00. The money and trophy came from sponsors.

I agree that the amount of awards is over the top but if I win one I will take it and be happy. I also think that the awards at the AMHR National show are a little light. There don't have to be a lot but what there is should be good quality. It might cost less to show than at AMHAs World but it still costs enough and the classes are big enough to do a little better in the Awards department.

Awards

Classes will be judged and the Top Ten horses/exhibitors

will be announced. The World Champion (first place)

will receive a neck sash and trophy. The Reserve World

Champion (2nd place) will receive a neck sash and trophy.

The horses/exhibitors placing third through tenth

will receive a rosette and plaque.

World Grand Champion and World Reserve Grand

Champions will be selected for Senior Stallion, Senior

Mare, Junior Stallion, Junior Mare, Junior Gelding, Senior

Gelding, Single Pleasure Driving Horse, Country Pleasure

Driving Horse, Roadster Horse, Amateur Mare, Amateur

Stallion and Amateur Gelding. The Grand Champions

will receive a neck sash plus a trophy and the Reserve

Champions will receive a neck sash plus a trophy.

Gelding Incentive Fund

Thanks for the gracious donations from the many AMHA

owners, breeders, trainers, exhibitors, and supporters of

the Gelding Incentive Fund. Funds will be awarded at the

2006 World Show to the top ten winners in the six Youth

Gelding Halter classes, four Amateur Gelding Halter classes

and the AOTE Gelding class. Checks awarded the day(s)

of the Gelding classes will be non-negotiable and for photo

purposes only. The “Request for Payment†form attached

to the back of the non-negotiable check must be filled out

and left at the AMHA booth or mailed to AMHA headquarters

in order for payment to be made. Checks will be

mailed within 30 days after the closing of the World Show.

Please visit www.amha.org for more information.

Special Awards

2006 will be the second year that Open, Amateur and

Youth World Champions receive a custom, embroidered

AMHA 2006 World Champion jacket.

High Point Youth, Super Amateur, Best All-Around Horse

and High-Point Driving Horse Awards will be tallied and

announced at the 2006 AMHA World Championship

Show. These special awards will be calculated as follows:

Youth High-Point Girl/High-Point Boy

Recognition will be given to both HIGH-POINT BOY

AND GIRL with one horse/one Youth in each of the three

age groups (7 Years & under, 8 thru 12 Years, and 13 thru

17 Years) plus OVERALL HIGH POINT BOY AND GIRL

showing multiple horses. A Savings Bond will be awarded

for each youth High-Point winner.

High Point Youth/

One Horse Combination**

Points will be compiled from all Youth Classes (exception

- Youth Costume is not included) and an award presented

to the overall High Point Youth/One Horse combination.

A youth can enter more than one youth/horse combination,

but each combination will be considered separately

in scoring for this award.

The High-Point Boy and Girl (13 thru 17 Years and 8 thru

12 Years, and 7 and under) will receive a Special Designed

Belt Buckle.

High Point Youth/Multiple Horses**

Awards will be presented to the High-Point Boy and Girl

who have compiled the most points in all Youth classes

(except Youth Costume) exhibiting multiple horses. If a

Youth exhibits more than one horse per class (i.e. Youth

Jumper), only points from the highest placing horse will

be used to calculate this award.

**SPECIAL YOUTH EXHIBITORS NOTE]

If the High Point Youth/One Horse Combination winner

also earns the most points in the High Point

Youth/Multiple Horses competition, he/she will only be

eligible to receive one award - the Youth/One Horse

Combination Award. The second place high scoring

youth with multiple horses will then be awarded the high

scoring multiple horse award.

Best All-Around Horse

Competition for the Best All-Around Horse at the World

Championship Show will be limited to a maximum of five

classes, one of which must be the respective

halter/height/age class and up to four of the following

OPEN classes: Obstacle Driving, Roadster, Halter

Obstacle, Single Pleasure Driving, Country Pleasure

Driving, Hunter, Jumper and Liberty. Each exhibitor must

designate the five (5) classes prior to showing. Forms are

available in the Show Office.

An elegant crystal horse award will be presented to the

Best All-Around Horse. This prestigious award was started

by and continues to be sponsored by DANIEL AND CAROLE

HEERMANN of HEERMANN HOMESTEAD,

Woodland, WA. Thanks to DANIEL AND CAROLE

HEERMANN!

Super Amateur (one exhibitor/one horse)

Competition for the Super Amateur Award will be limited

to a maximum of five classes, one of which must be the

respective Amateur Halter Class (Stallion, Mare, Gelding

or AOTE), and up to four of the following AMATEUR or

AOTE classes: Showmanship, Halter Obstacle, Hunter,

Jumper, Roadster, Obstacle Driving, Country Pleasure

Driving and Single Pleasure Driving. The amateur

exhibitor must designate the five classes prior to showing.

All Amateurs vying for the Super Amateur Award agree to

be present to accept the award. Forms are available in the

Show Office.

High-Point Driving Horse

Competition for the High-Point Driving Horse at the

World Championship Show is limited to a maximum of

five classes. These five classes must be selected by the

exhibitor from the three driving divisions only - Roadster,

Single Pleasure Driving, and Country Pleasure Driving.

Each exhibitor must designate these five driving classes

prior to showing. Forms are available in the Show Office.

The owner’s name of the High-Point Driving Horse will be

placed on a beautiful perpetual trophy, donated by PATRICIA

PARKER CROSBY- RATTLESNAKE BAYOU MINIATURES

in honor of Flying W Farms Moonlight Bay.

Polly and Alex Weisberg, Los Arboles Farm, Mineola, TX

will present a smaller perpetual trophy (replica of the

large trophy) to the winning owner to take home and

proudly display for one year.

Special Award Ties and Scoring

In calculating any of the Special Awards (Super Amateur,

Best All-Around Horse, High-Point Driving Horse, and

High-Point Youth Awards), should ties occur, the following

procedure will be followed. The first tie breaker will

be to determine the horse/exhibitor defeating the most

competitors. If a tie still results from this calculation, then

the next tie breaker will be to determine which

horse/exhibitor placed highest in their respective halter

class (except High-Point Driving Horse). For tie breaker

consideration horses/exhibitors must place first through

tenth in any eligible class. Should a tie still result, a coin

will be tossed by the exhibitors to determine the winner.

In scoring all special awards, the following computer

point system will be used:

l Entries in classes with 10 or more entries -

first receives 10 points, second receives 9 points,

third receives 8 points, etc.

l Entries in classes with less than 10 entries -

first receives number of points based on the total

number of entries shown, etc. (Example - class with

only seven entries shown - first receives 7 points,

second receives 6 points, third receives 5 points, etc.)

Grand Champion Senior Gelding

BARBARA NORMAN and WINNER'S CIRCLE RANCH

have generously donated a beautiful perpetual trophy

award in honor of the late show horse Flying W Farms

Show Boy. This award will be presented annually to the

Grand Champion Senior Gelding for a 10-year period.

Champion Mare & Current Year Foal

The mare owner of the World Champion Mare & Current

Year Foal class will receive an Equi-Page Foaling System

courtesy of KEN PORTER and EQUI-PAGE.

Champion Get of Sire -

Vern Brewer Memorial Trophy

The highlight of the Tuesday evening performance will be

the selection of the Champion Get of Sire. The owner of

the winning sire will be honored by being the recipient of

the Vern Brewer Memorial Trophy.

World Grand Champion Sr. Stallion -

Bob Erwin Memorial Trophy

The Bob Erwin Memorial Trophy presentation to the owner

of the World Championship Grand Champion Senior

Stallion will be a "feature attraction" for the 2006 World

Championship Show on Saturday evening October 8.

Ross Cearley Memorial Youth

Sportsmanship Award

This award will be given in honor and memory of Ross

Cearley, in recognition of the tremendous support and

assistance that he provided for many years to the AMHyA

Program. This award will be given to the Youth selected

for exemplifying, in the opinion of the judges, the best

sportsmanship - “both in victory and defeat†- while

exhibiting in the AMHyA World Championship Show.

Reece Family Youth Award

This award is in memory of Ronnie Reece and in honor of

the Reece Family. The recipient is selected by the youth

committee, from nominations from the youth’s local

clubs based on leadership, sportsmanship, enthusiasm,

competitiveness and versatility and someone that other

youth look up to as a role model. Courtesy of DALMAR

MINIATURES and HOMESTEAD ACRES.

Alvadar’s Future of the Industry Award

2006 marks the third year for the "Alvadar's Future of the

Industry" award sponsored by Alvadar Farm. The high

point overall youth regardless of sex or number of horses

will receive a custom embroidered jacket and a $200 cash

award courtesy of Alvadar Farm.

World Grand Champions-

Grand Prix Cash Awards

Thanks to the AMHA Membership Insurance Program

with Travelers Insurance, the GENCORP INSURANCE

GROUP will present a Grand Prix Cash award to each of

the owners of the twelve World Championship Grand

Champions.

Charisma Award

New for 2006! The Charisma award is sponsored by DAWGPATCH

FARM in honor of 12 time World Champion

Crystal Ridge Carousel Charisma – “Oreoâ€. This 27.5 inch

mare has competed in every National and World Show

since 1999. She has compiled a remarkable record of 12

Champion and Reserve Champion titles as well as seven

Top Five and nine Top Ten titles. This horse has shown her

little heart out for youth, amateur, and open classes. For the

joy she has brought to us, DAWGPATCH FARM is proud to

honor her by presenting a $1000 check to the World

Champion 28†and under Senior Mare.

 

[Karen S]

Hi Libby,

I have a question concerning these awards: Are they awarded in the exhibitors name? or in the name of the horse?

If any money is awarded in the Amateur's name it could cause a problem for those Amateurs that show both AMHA and AMHR. Since ASPC/AMHR IS a member of the U S Equestrian Federation, our Amateurs can't win over $300 dollars (in the person's name) as it would automatically make them a professional and they would loose all Amateur rights. Our Amateur rules come straight from the US Equestrian Federation rulebook. I know that the awards that the ASPC/AMHR gives to our Amateurs are in their horse's name to avoid any conflicts there.

I just wanted a clarification regarding this matter as I would hate to see an ASPC/AMHR Amateur loose their Amateur status over a large amount of money that was over the $300 that they might win in your association.

Sincerely,

Karen Shaw

Chairman

ASPC/AMHR/ASPR Triple A Amateur Advantage Program

 

[mistyrose]

Hi Libby,

I have a question concerning these awards: Are they awarded in the exhibitors name? or in the name of the horse?

If any money is awarded in the Amateur's name it could cause a problem for those Amateurs that show both AMHA and AMHR. Since ASPC/AMHR IS a member of the U S Equestrian Federation, our Amateurs can't win over $300 dollars (in the person's name) as it would automatically make them a professional and they would loose all Amateur rights. Our Amateur rules come straight from the US Equestrian Federation rulebook. I know that the awards that the ASPC/AMHR gives to our Amateurs are in their horse's name to avoid any conflicts there.

I just wanted a clarification regarding this matter as I would hate to see an ASPC/AMHR Amateur loose their Amateur status over a large amount of money that was over the $300 that they might win in your association.

Sincerely,

Karen Shaw

Chairman

ASPC/AMHR/ASPR Triple A Amateur Advantage Program

 

[Sunshine Acres]

There was an AOTE (Amateur Owned Trained Exhibited) sponsored premium paid in the AOTE classes that was paid to 5 places that added up to $2600 per class.

The Supreme was given a large cash award of $7000.00. The money and trophy came from sponsors.

Karen,

I am completely understanding what you are saying when I read this quote. As I am also aware that the horse that won the $7,000 Supreme cash award was also shown in their amatuer level 2 class and was reserve in that class. In looking at the world results in the world magazine, I noticed a few names that would have recieved payout under this quote in several classes that I know are showing amateur in the AMHR as well.

This brings up a very interesting question from me, Karen I belong to an AMHR club that has awarded year end cash awards that are $100 a class, there have been amateurs that win over $700 and up a year in cash awards, including amateur classes. Is this legal as an amateur in the AMHR/ASPC? This same person has also won sevaral cash awards through the AMHA world.

 

[kaykay]

i went and tried to load the ammy form from the amha site but it doesnt work. it would be interesting to see what the guidelines for ammy status in amha are. My thing though is even if the money is awarded to the "horse" this isnt right. The horse cant cash the check or spend the money.

ever since i started showing i have always been told that skill level has nothing to do with ammy status its all about wether you have received financial gain from showing or training.

Obviously there are a whole lot of "amatuers" that have benefited financially and still show ammy. so frustrating for the rest of us.

I have helped a lot of new people with their horses. Several times I have been offerred money and always turned it down to maintain my ammy status.

 

[SweetOpal]

Kay,

I hear ya! I have boarded horses for free and even transported them for free, worried about loosing my amateur status....lol...

this is a very interesting thread, I hope we can get some answers!

 

[Mini_Bre]

So if an AMHR amateur wins over 300 dollars while showing their horse in the AMHR National Futurity they can't show in amateur? Or when it comes to furutities are the rules diffrent???

 

[kaykay]

you feel my pain dontcha sister LOL!! the sad thing is that i had to way cut back on helping new people as i just dont have the money to drive to their farms (i was spending tons on gas) and spend hrs helping them like i would like to, when i cannot take any money for doing it. Now i just try to help people over the phone or ask them to come here.

But see people like us are so careful not to do anything that could be misconstrued and then you hear of these big cash payouts and think geesh what am i worried about?

Okay one thing ive been really trying hard not to say. But you guys know me im going to say it. I would guess that most of the people that won these big awards are pretty big farms, that are probably doing pretty well financially. (not saying all!) I havent read who the winners are so pls tell me if there are little farms that won. If it is all big farms winning the big cash payouts this just adds to the mystique of amha being the society for the rich people. (the rich get richer?) Im really hoping im wrong and some little dogs got some of that money

 

[Lisa-Ruff N Tuff Minis]

I to wondered about the check cashing and the horse Kay of course I have not been lucky enough to have a horse who won any money

: but would think bottom line the money still goes to the registered owner of the horse meaning the ammy ?

Of course personally I would gladly give up my ammy status for that kinda money I mean really I am such a doof in the show ring anyway it wouldnt make much of a difference where I am - a doof in any class kinda thing lol

I am thinking there is a difference in the futurity and gelding incentive as everyone pays into that class to be in it? Since those classes work more like a jackpot you put in extra to get extra Maybe not but in my brain that is how it would work -compared to just being given large sums of money for winning or placing in a class

I am guessing maybe that is why the stakes classes pay out like they do in AMHR to keep you able to do Ammy?

 

[Sandee]

Just a thought but I'm wondering if one way of getting around the money rules would be like the IRS rules that if you can show that you spent more then you earned then you have no "income".

 

[SweetOpal]

I was just looking at the amateur packet for amhr, as I understand it you may not accept remuneration for more than $300(if I understand it right you are not to accept more or even less than$300 in cash??) . It also states on page 33 article A of the rule book that you may not accept remuneration for riding, driving, showing in halter/in hand, training, schooling or conducting clinics or seminars.

Im sure that Karen S can clear this up for us. She is super helpful with amateur program!

 

[mistyrose]

I really think that getting paid for showing means getting paid for the act of taking the horse in the ring for someone and not for winning an award. If it does then AMHR amateurs who have won money in the futurity are at risk of having their cards pulled.

Being paid in the horses name means nothing since the horse doesn't cash the check or have control of the funds.

As for all the AOTE and Amateur classes being won by those well to do, I went and looked. It seems to be about 50/50 with the plain old middle class. The results are at http://www.amha.org/show/2006/WorldChampShowResults.htm

The rule book at http://www.amha.org/index.asp?KeyName=811

The stakes and futurity would not be different than the regular classes using the "everyone" paid into it defense since everyone play to go in every class at these shows.

There is a difference between being paid for doing something and from winning a contest. When you are paid for doing something there is an agreement between you and the persopn who pays you for a specific task. When you win an award in a class, everyone who walks in the ring has a chance to win. If A is showing a horse for B for a set fee, there is really no chance for anyone else in the class to be paid for A's work.

 

[Lisa-Ruff N Tuff Minis]

I am sure it was within the rules of AMHA as it would be very silly for them to have awards given that were not within the limit of the registry.

However I still wonder how it effects those that have won a class in AMHA and then gone on to show in ammy in AMHR where the rules are clearly very different.

No matter if you are paid by a individual or a sponsor the way I understand the rules you are still being PAID over and above the 300 dollars

but like Sweet Opal said I am sure Karen will let us know maybe we are unclear on the rules and it is perfectly acceptable for an ammy to win hundreds of dollars as it is in AMHA

 

[kaykay]

libby

I really respect your opinion and all you do. And im very happy to see your name in those lists of winners.

: And I want to say i do admire amha's ammy level one and 2 and wish we could get something similiar in amhr. (i know ill get screamed at for that comment lol) But ummm i have to disagree with the 50/50 split. If you go by who all got national champion (ammy), those are some huge names. Those are certainly not "little dogs" by anyones stretch of imagination.

i strongly disagree that accepting big cash payments is not the same as being paid to show a horse. The only difference is that instead of accepting a customers money you are being paid by the registry or sponsor. But you are still being paid to show a horse and win.

Now if that is acceptable *and obviously it is* in amha thats great. but for these people to come show ammy in amhr, after accepting big cash awards, is to me a huge disservice to all of us that have refused payments and gifts for fear of losing our ammy status in amhr.

Obviously these people are way over the 300.00 limit set by amhr.

 

[Lewella]

I am thinking there is a difference in the futurity and gelding incentive as everyone pays into that class to be in it?

I am guessing maybe that is why the stakes classes pay out like they do in AMHR to keep you able to do Ammy?

Hi Lisa,

In AMHR the awards are made in the name of the horse - not the name of the exhibitor. That's why Karen asked if AMHA awards the money in the name of the exhibitor or the horse. If AMHA is in the name of the exhibitor is could make the AMHA winner ineligible for Amatuer status in AMHR (which follows USEF rules - it could make them ineligible for amatuer status in ANY USEF affiliate.)

Not sure how the stakes class payout is structured. It is also awarded in the name of the horse though - not in the name of the exhibitor.

 

[wpsellwood]

I went to the Equestrian Federation rulebook just look for myself. Its states in Subchapter 8-C amateur and professionals. GR 805 Amt. Status 2.d. Accepting a token of appreciation, other than money, for riding, driving or showing in halter/in hand. (note: horse board, prize money, partial support of objects of more than 300.00 are considered remuneration, not small tokens of appreciation is considered remuneration.) Prize money won by an amt.-owner rider/driver/hander in any class (other than equitation or showmanship) is not considered remuneration.

The last sentence says prize money won by an amt. is not considered remuneration.

Someone decipher this one

 

[mistyrose]

In the Equatation and Showmanship classes the judges are placing the exhibitor not the horse. In all other classes including Level 1 and 2 the judges are placing the horse. What you quoted basically said prize money won in classes where the judge places the horse do not count towards the $300 limit. Believe me there are many large breeds in the USEF that give much larger prizes than AMHA does.

 

[wpsellwood]

Thank you! I was hoping someone would reply

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[SweetOpal]

Prize money won by an amt.-owner rider/driver/hander in any class (other than equitation or showmanship) is not considered remuneration.

The last sentence says prize money won by an amt. is not considered remuneration.

Someone decipher this one

However in the AMHR rule book it does not read this way. It does read this way in the AMHA rules.

 

[wpsellwood]

If any money is awarded in the Amateur's name it could cause a problem for those Amateurs that show both AMHA and AMHR. Since ASPC/AMHR IS a member of the U S Equestrian Federation, our Amateurs can't win over $300 dollars (in the person's name) as it would automatically make them a professional and they would loose all Amateur rights. Our Amateur rules come straight from the US Equestrian Federation rulebook. I know that the awards that the ASPC/AMHR gives to our Amateurs are in their horse's name to avoid any conflicts there.

According to this post the AMHR rules come straight from the Equestrain Federation and thats where I got that rule. Straight out of their rulebook not the AMHA rulebook

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