allaboutminis
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I will not go into any details on here. But things needs to stop
I will not go into any details on here. But things needs to stop
Thanks, Jacki! How nice of you! We are really looking forward to the trip, in fact getting our last minute running done to be ready to pull out early Thursday morning and beat the heat. Do you think it would be possible that you will have some time to chat with me a little about this topic up there? It sounds like you've been showing a long time. I'd love to be able to talk with someone face-to-face about my original question. Then again, as show secretary, you may not have time. I totally understad that. lol
There is a VERY simple answer to that question - POPULATION. There are only about 1000 ASPC Shetlands registered PER YEAR. There are 8000+ AMHR miniatures registered per year (AMHR new registration numbers have been in the 12,000 range in the last decade whereas ASPC numbers in the last decade have never even been close to 1500).
A qualification requirement for Shetlands would probably have very little effect on local show attendance. Most Shetlands are already showing at two or more shows prior to Congress each year.
The horse market as a whole does not currently support a larger population for any breed. The breeding population of Shetlands does not support larger production of quality animals either. As I mentioned, the vast majority of Shetlands that showed at Congress had attended two or more local shows this year, many having shown in half a dozen or more. I really don't see a qualification requirement for Shetlands increasing entries since the Shetlands that are going to show are going to show and show a lot all year working towards their Hall of Fames.Going back to the topic that Jacki brought up and Lewella replied to...wouldn't having qualifications for Nationals for Shetlands help the local clubs, like she mentioned? Even if they are just a requirement to show under x-and so many judges, I can see how it may help stimulate breeders to produce more to get the registration numbers up.
Maybe they should be glad the miniatures haven't tried to separate and make their own way...now THERE'S a thought...
I said that "tongue in cheek", but if the ENTIRE REGISTRY moved, it wouldn't be anything like the World Class.
I think it could be EASILY solved...if we must accept them, they must accept they stay within their own division.
This is just a case of wanting their cake and eating it too...and I for one get so tired of hearing how WE must accept it and shut the He** up about it, 'cause the ASPC was here first...our minis are Shetland anyways...
As a point of clarification,When these people created AMHR they made sure to write in certain bylaws so that ASPC could never be overtaken by its own creation--AMHR.
I never meant to imply anyone was one against the other as anyone who reads my post knows I hate that mind set. Its just business practices--but I think some take it as a personal insult.The organization is not founded on one against the other or as separate entities rather for the purposes of " small equine".
KayThe American Shetland Pony Club was founded in 1888 as a registry to keep the pedigrees for all the Shetlands that were being imported from Europe at that time.
It has expanded to four separate breeds under one club: The Classic American Shetland Pony, The Modern American Shetland Pony, The American Miniature Horse Registry and The American Show Pony Registry.
I and many here do not know what is going/went on BUT PLEASE... keep personal matters off this forum..
Since the majority were shetlands they did support themselves, but just with a different name and a different paper.Kay while your history is correct that does nothing but prove the fact that the Shetlands in and of themselves could not support themselves
But, you are also forgetting the Falabella influence, the Welsh, the British Spotted Pony, and the Internationaly registered horses brought over from Europe, and whatever else there was small enough to be bred down...it isn't just the American Shetland that "made" the Miniature horse of today...although a lot would like to think so.Some of theses breeders even made up wonderful stories to add to the mystique of where these Miniature horses came from. To keep up the mystery many even threw out the ASPC papers on these small Shetlands. To do this they created a height registry called AMHR.
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