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Obama's Socialist Agenda -- Is Anyone Listening?

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Posted by Bobby Eberle

October 14, 2008 at 6:38 am >> Printer-Friendly Version

Outside of stump speeches, carefully scripted responses to reporters, and the endless recitation of talking points, there are a few moments when a politician speaks from the heart. It is in these moments when true motivations and core beliefs are often revealed.

Such a moment occurred this past weekend, when Barack Obama unveiled his socialist leanings and gave a clue to the American people about what Obama is all about. But, are the American people listening? Have they become so duped by the rhetoric of "hope" and "change" that they don't see the train wreck that's about to happen? Our freedoms are already being taken away as government continues to grow. If Obama gets elected, the subtleties will be thrown out the window as blatant socialism will rule the day. Just read Obama's response to a plumber's question in Ohio...



As reported by Fox News, during a campaign event in Ohio, Obama was peppered with questions from a local plumber who asked, "Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn't it?" The plumber was complaining (as I often do) that he is "being taxed more and more for fulfilling the American dream."

Obama's response? He gave the plumber a classic dose of socialism:

"It's not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they've got a chance for success too," Obama responded. "My attitude is that if the economy's good for folks from the bottom up, it's gonna be good for everybody ... I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody."
 

Spread the wealth around? This is America, isn't it? Redistributing the "wealth" is a classic tenet of Marxist philosophy. Communist China, the former Soviet Union, Cuba, and so on.... they all believe in government ownership of basically everything. Hard work, initiative, expertise... none of that is rewarded. Instead, the efforts of the talented and the hard-working are taken from them and given to those who don't work as hard. The result is a decrease in productivity, not to mention the self-fulfillment that comes from being rewarded for a job well done. And this is exactly what Barack Obama wants to do!

John McCain needs to get the message out on EXACTLY how he and Barack Obama are different. Yes, there should be tax cuts, and they should be for all Americans. Everytime Obama speaks about tax cuts, he only talks about cutting taxes for a particular group or segment of society. It is social engineering at its worst. Obama and the "govermennt" will decide how to redistribute the wealth of this country. McCain needs to hammer this!!!

My question to Obama is this... How do you make the economy good "for folks at the bottom up" without injecting more government into the picture or letting capitalism work?

Does Obama really understand the essence of America? It is strong because of the American spirit of invention and the bravery to undertake new endeavors. Those at the economic bottom DO NOT create jobs. Those at the economic bottom get hired for jobs. When the economy is robust, more jobs are created, thus more people get hired. There's not a business existing in America today that doesn't want to "do more business." In order to grow, more workers must be hired, and more capital purchased... both of which benefit the economy. Doesn't Obama understand this???

Let's just do a little simple math to see how taxes really work. Let's say there is a person making $50,000/year and paying 15% in federal income tax. Thus, the person's yearly tax burden is $7,500. If someone making $1,000,000/year paid at the same tax rate, they would pay $150,000 in taxes. So, the person making $50,000 pays $7,500, and the person making a million pays $150,000. Those who make more money, pay more in taxes. It's only logical.

However, that is not how a socialist thinks. Rather than each person truly paying "their fair share," the socialist says that the "rich" person should not only pay more because he or she makes more, but they should also pay a higher percentage. So, the person making $1,000,000/year instead pays 35% in taxes for a tax bill of $350,000. That's an extra $200,000 that the government takes out of circulation to pay for their social engineering.

My contention is this, there is basically nothing that the individual with an extra $200k as his/her disposal could do that is "bad" for the economy. The person could save it, thus giving banks more leverage to do business. The person could invest it, thus helping new or established companies grow. The person could donate some to charity, thus helping organizations at the grassroots level do things more efficiently than the federal government could ever hope to. Or, God forbid, the person could simply go out and buy stuff. Two hundred thousand dollars of stuff is a lot of stuff! Imagine all that cash injected into society. Talk about a stimulus package. More goods being purchased, whether it is cars, clothes, furniture, food, or whatever, means that more jobs will be needed to produce those goods. It's as simple as that.

The problem is that Obama uses the politics of "trickle down economics" to pit one socio-economic group against another. It is typical class warfare, and it is un-American. Someone (McCain) needs to meet this head on and use some "straight talk." There is no "trickle down" theory. The more money that is in the hands of those who make the money, and outside the clutches of government, benefits the entire society instantly. There is nothing to trickle down. When all Americans are treated fairly, we all benefit. That is the American way!

Investor's Business Daily describes Obama as "the most anti-capitalist politician ever nominated by a major party." In their editorial, IBD describes the Obama/liberal agenda as follows:

It starts with a tax system right out of Marx: A massive redistribution of income -- from each according to his ability, to each according to his need -- all in the name of "neighborliness," "patriotism," "fairness" and "justice."
 
It continues with a call for a new world order that turns its back on free trade, has no problem with government controlling the means of production, imposes global taxes to support continents where our interests are negligible, signs on to climate treaties that will sap billions more in U.S. productivity and wealth, and institutes an authoritarian health care system that will strip Americans' freedoms and run up costs.
 
All the while, it ensures that nothing -- absolutely nothing -- will be done to secure a sufficient, terror-proof supply of our economic lifeblood -- oil -- a resource we'll need much more of in the years ahead.
 

McCain needs to board the Straight Talk Express and let the American people know what Obama is all about, and how McCain is different. Make no mistake, Sen. McCain, an Obama administration IS scary. You should be scared too. You should also hit Obama hard every single time he engages in socialist rhetoric.

All people are capable of abusing the system, and as we've seen lately, both Republicans and Democrats are capable of greed and corruption. But it is not the American way to punish initiative and ingenuity. It is not "patriotic" to pay more taxes. All Americans should pay less taxes! In tough economic times, the last thing you want to do is hurt business producers. Who is going to create the jobs? The government
 
So Bobby Eberle is supposed to be an unbiased news source??? Okey Dokey
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So Bobby Eberle is supposed to be an unbiased news source??? Okey Dokey
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I didn't even post a statement so I never said HE was unbiased.
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It's no worse than some of the other things posted on here. Anything posted is an opinion. And this is my opinion, but I ACTUALLY heard Obama saying those words in his speech. You can not deny that. If you watched his speech you would have heard it. So it is NOT all biased. Just something Obama supporters DON'T want to hear or be reminded of.
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Did I miss it where someone said it was an unbiased news source??? Looks to me like the only comments were from those of us who said "thanks" and "we liked it". Just because you evidently don't feel the same way doesn't automatically mean it's biased....it's merely an opinion that differs from yours.
 
Thank you for the interesting article you have provided us with, Bonnie! I am glad Joe the plumber asked the question that he did also. He is just your normal "joe" (no pun intended) trying to make a living.
 
Thanks for posting. This is not Socialism its already Marxsim

" You need hope and change" Karl Marx
 
Thanks for the article.

I enjoyed it also. And BTW most news sources seem to be biased one way or another.

It is our job to sift through all that to come to our own opinions.

But I totally agree with the article.
 
Yesterday, Obama told collage students get $ 4000 tax credit when they serve the National Military Community Service.

No guns, military back home from Iraq and Afghanistan, National Military Community and our borders closed. Fits together

I have no children but if I had I would be very worried.
 
Yesterday, Obama told collage students get $ 4000 tax credit when they serve the National Military Community Service.
No guns, military back home from Iraq and Afghanistan, National Military Community and our borders closed. Fits together

I have no children but if I had I would be very worried.
Trust me..I AM worried..
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Obama told collage students get $ 4000 tax credit when they serve the National Military
. And I guess that is how he is going to build up his military for the wars that he is not going to have to fight?

Why is he complicating this so much?

Does this mean the students will not get financial help if they do not do it the Obama way? If so, there goes another freedom! I wonder if Obama's college supporters are getting the facts on this?

You know college students want help that does not come with strings attached!! Simplify it, loans at a reasonable rate for a time frame that they can afford!
 
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It really doesn't matter who wrote the article or where it came from............

The content was well done and I agree with it.
 
Yesterday, Obama told collage students get $ 4000 tax credit when they serve the National Military Community Service.

$ 4,000 what is that?? I seem to be under the impression that if you join the military now you get your COLLEGE paid for....I too heard him say Military not peace corp, and I beleieve he also said something along the lines of public servant, like Military??

Edited to add: I found the article to be very true and to the point, I couldn't agree more.
 
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ALL the tax credits..(that he calls taxcuts) come with strings attached..do this and you get $$

Freedom..my foot!
 
Wonder what this will do to New Hampshires state motto..oh wait..change..yeah thats it!
 
anita said:
Yesterday, Obama told collage students get $ 4000 tax credit when they serve the National Military Community Service.
For once I listened to the debate and what I heard, very clearly, was "$4,000 tuition credit for those serving their country in the military, the Peace Corp, or with community service hours." I too admit I was giving him the hairy eyeball when he started with the credit-for-the-military thing, thinking "Wait, is he pushing for enlistment?" and "The military already pays for college!" but as he continued the statement I calmed down and thought "Hey, tuition assistance in exchange for community service is NOT a bad plan. Hmm! I like it!" That's something anyone could do, gives BACK to the community, and helps the individual get to college without loading on more and more debt they can't repay. I would have done it in a heartbeat if it had been available when I was going to school.
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I also found it very alarming when McCain said that he was in favor of removing credentialing (is that a word?) requirements for former military to become teachers. I was like "What?! How on earth does being military qualify you to teach our children any better than anyone else??" Remove educational degree requirements in some cases, sure, fine. Let the experts teach our children in the subjects of their expertise without requiring them to go through additional years of college to be "qualified." But he never said a word about that, only about the military. I found that really odd!
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Both candidates put their foots in their mouths regarding the issue of education and the military, in my opinion. The question is did they dig their way back out and have a valid alternative.
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Just my observations, no judgments intended or implied. I am not saying one candidate is better or more trust-worthy than the other, only that the words I heard used are a little different from the ones I'm hearing quoted here regarding the $4,000 for education thing.

Leia (who is waiting to be bashed, as usual)
 
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Yesterday, Obama told collage students get $ 4000 tax credit when they serve the National Military Community Service.

$ 4,000 what is that?? I seem to be under the impression that if you join the military now you get your COLLEGE paid for....I too heard him say Military not peace corp, and I beleieve he also said something along the lines of public servant, like Military??

Edited to add: I found the article to be very true and to the point, I couldn't agree more.
His exact quote last night was "And that's why I've proposed a $4,000 tuition credit, every student, every year, in exchange for some form of community service, whether it's military service, whether it's Peace Corps, whether it's working in a community."

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/16/ra...dential-debate/
 
tuition assistance in exchange for community service is NOT a bad plan.
Leia I agree. Community or national service is definitely a good idea IMO.

As far as retired military becoming teachers is concerned there are hundreds of them. Not sure what/how they got where they are, but I do know there are a lot of them in the classrooms. When we hear about retired military members becoming teachers I think it's very important to remember that in todays military people no longer just dig fox holes and fire a weapon. I sure hope this doesn't sound condescending because that certainly isn't my intent. Just something to think about.
 
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