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[CandyB]

Here is one:

Modern law enforcement officers strongly discourage untrained civilians from making a citizen's arrest. The risk of bodily injury or death is much too high, and the average response time of trained police officers is significantly faster. But under certain circumstances, a citizen's arrest can provide enough time for the proper authorities to arrive. One of the main problems with a citizen's arrest, however, is the possibility of making a mistake. Unlike a failed attempt to resuscitate a victim through CPR, there is very little if any 'Good Samaritan' protection for private citizens who detain an innocent suspect.

One criteria for a legal citizen's arrest is the immediacy of the crime. The ideal circumstance is to catch the suspected criminal in the very act of committing a crime. A person witnessing a mugging can seize the mugger and hold him until a police officer arrives, for example.

Another scenario for a proper citizen's arrest would be a serious potential for a crime to be committed soon. If a person saw a masked man with a crowbar walking towards a vehicle, it can be reasonably assumed that a crime is about to take place. The witness can detain the masked man by making a citizen's arrest. This would still be true even if the 'crime' turned out to be a misunderstanding. If someone sees a man climbing through a broken window, he cannot be held responsible for false arrest if the man turns out to be the owner of the building who lost his keys.

Because the act of detaining an armed or physically powerful suspect can be extremely dangerous, police officers often suggest that citizens spend their time observing the suspect and the crime scene instead. If the witness can provide a physical description of the suspect or a license plate number, the police may be able to find the suspect themselves. The safer equivalent of a citizen's arrest is a signed statement, with the intention of pressing criminal charges later. Sometimes, a police officer will ask a witness or victim to tell the suspect that he or she has been placed under citizen's arrest. This gives the police more legal authority to detain the suspect until he or she can be properly processed into the legal system.

I am looking now for laws specific to Kansas

 

[rabbitsfizz]

[SIZE=12pt]Is there a way there can be a "closed to comments" thread where only CHMR people can post updates of WHAT is going on / the current situation? I want to know, but it's over 100 pages now which is probably 30 or more since I last read. I would love it if there was a place to read the status, vs. what everyone thinks of it (without any offense to anyone -- I have not read the posts in the past 5 or so days).[/SIZE]

(Please?)

Moderators???

Is this possible???

It is a really good idea- it could just be voluntary (not answering unless you are CMHR-perhaps moving or deleting otherwise???)

 

[Marty]

The latest from the Sheriff to me (today) when I asked him begged him one more time to cut me a deal throw me a bone and give me the downed horses....was that there is no surrender what so ever ; there is nothing wrong with the horses except some parasties, and no horses down. The horses that are down get up. He says Trembly should cut back on his numbers and that is all and gave me his phone number and told me if I want to call him to convince him (620) 224-7320 that would be fine with him and to keep trying if there is no answer because it's a cell phone. He told me if I want to come with a trailer to try and go for it and he wished me luck. He seemed in very good spirits too.

Now WHY would he be in such good spirits?

The plot thickens.

Right now we are just phoning eachother back and forth because it's the fastest way and things keep changing like every 5 freggin seconds this is so crazy

 

[Jill]

[SIZE=12pt]Is there a way there can be a "closed to comments" thread where only CHMR people can post updates of WHAT is going on / the current situation? I want to know, but it's over 100 pages now which is probably 30 or more since I last read. I would love it if there was a place to read the status, vs. what everyone thinks of it (without any offense to anyone -- I have not read the posts in the past 5 or so days).[/SIZE]

(Please?)

Moderators???

Is this possible???

It is a really good idea- it could just be voluntary (not answering unless you are CMHR-perhaps moving or deleting otherwise???)

I wish I wish! I don't know the current status. I just watched the YouTube video which feels like a fist around the heart.

 

[Buckskin gal]

Marty please, is there someone there to verify they are being moved? Who seen them being moved? And are they able to stay with them to see where they are taken? We need to know the facts also. Mary

te name='Marty' date='Oct 9 2007, 01:08 PM' post='896007']

Marty.....I've just got to ask. How do you know - why do you believe - he is moving the horses??? What has happened to make you and Virginia think this will happen?

Because WE KNOW THIS AS FACT

They have conspired a plan to do so.

WE ARE IN PANIC STATE

Someone please keep calling the all the media you can to get out there and film.

That is the only thing that is holding them up.



Here is the address to the place for anyone reading and not responding to their actions to help:

TAKE 54 WEST OUT OF FORT SCOTT KANSAS 15-16 MILES. GO 1 MILE SOUTH ON 85TH STREET. YOU WILL REACH MAPLE ROAD. GO LEFT BACK WEST FOR 1 MILE TO 85TH. TAKE THIS SOUTH FOR 1 MILE TAKE THE CURVE LEFT AND THIS IS LIMESTONE. FARM IS STRAIGHT AHEAD ABOUT .5 MILE ON THE LEFT. YOU CANT MISS IT.

~In this case it is better to ask forgiveness then permission...time is of the essence~

 

[Lisa-Ruff N Tuff Minis]

Mary it is my understanding that there are CMHR people there in KS now and that is how they know these horses are being moved or that they are trying to move them

 

[MaryKansas]

I've tried to find a way to make it to Uniontown today, but its not possible. However, first thing in the morning, I'll be heading down there along with a very dear friend....and our cameras!

Is it ok if I take a few phone numbers with us so we can call someone and give them an update of what we see there? If so, who would be the best person to call...and can someone PM me a number??

 

[C G Minis]

DOES ANY ONE HAVE A WAY TO CONTACT THE PERSON THAT TOOK THE FIRST PICTURES LAST MONTH?? IS SHE STILL INVOLVED??

 

[Minimor]

CG Minis--Ronnie is the person who took the first photos and yes, she is still there in the thick of things. She is one of the group that was to meet with the county attorney this morning.

I'm assuming that Ronnie is one of those now on the scene reporting about the Minis being moved and trying to find out where they are being taken.

It comes as no surprise to me that he is moving the horses. I just wish there was someone that could stop him, and someone that could and would overrule that useless sheriff.

someone on another board has warned all to be careful in Bourbon County. There are other things going on there, and this person says we have no idea of just how corrupt some of the officials may be. She is checking with relatives in the area to see if she can get any inside information about the people involved.

 

[Buckskin gal]

Then why wouldn't they be able to see where they are taken? Somebody has to be seeing what is going on one way or another if it is factual..... just can't stand the suspense and it sounding there is a consiracy and all. Seems if it is CMHR then we would be told it is. :no: Just too much heartbreak and feeling frustrated and angry over so many things that haven't been factual but thanks for your viewpoint on it. Mary

Mary it is my understanding that there are CMHR people there in KS now and that is how they know these horses are being moved or that they are trying to move them

 

[EMB]

Then why wouldn't they be able to see where they are taken? Somebody has to be seeing what is going on one way or another if it is factual..... just can't stand the suspense and it sounding there is a consiracy and all. Seems if it is CMHR then we would be told it is. :no: Just too much heartbreak and feeling frustrated and angry over so many things that haven't been factual but thanks for your viewpoint on it. Mary

Mary it is my understanding that there are CMHR people there in KS now and that is how they know these horses are being moved or that they are trying to move them

Mary I am with you on this. Enough of the intrigue. If CMHR has someone on the ground there then please say so.

 

[C G Minis]

MARY KANSAS-HOW LONG WILL YOU BE IN UNIONTOWN?I LIVE 3 HOURS AWAY BUT CANNOT GO THERE UNTILL THURSDAY IF ANY ONE FROM KANSAS IS NEEDED THERE BY THEN. WHO KNOWS WHAT WILL BE THE MINIS FATE BY THEN :no: :no:

 

[kaykay]

I dont have any new info to add but please be patient!! I feel sure phone lines are ringing like crazy as they try to resolve this situation and as soon as they can someone will post

 

[Mona]

As per the post with informative CURRENT updates as they happen, Mary Lou has changed the pinned "contact info" topic at the top to also be used by Ginny of CMHR to copy/paste the current updates posted into the main thread. That way those that want to respond can do so in the main thread, and those seeking the current status ONLY, can view the updates at the top. PLEASE, as per ML's request, no one is allowed to post replies in that pinned topic. It is for Ginny(CMHR President) only, to post updates to as she learns of them. Your cooperation will be greatly appreciated.

 

[MaryKansas]

Speaking of corruption.....this was posted as a comment on the youtube video:

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Ive heard that the person who is suppose to be doing something about this problem actually owns these minis'. Imagine that!

Of course, with so many "stories" being told by the Sheriff, its so hard to believe anything anymore...and people can post what they like on the internet and we have to sort out the truth, but is there any way to confirm or rebute the above claim? Who do you think they are referring to, the Sheriff himself maybe??

CG Minis....we will be leaving in the morning, getting there about 10 am or so (approximately) I dont know how long we will be staying, I do know that I need to be home by tomorrow late afternoon, my kids will be home from school. I wish I could pitch tent and stay for the duration, but thats not possible.

 

[KanoasDestiny]

I have a question...I just watched the Youtube video and it is stated that one of the males has cancer of the sheath. Did a vet diagnose/confirm that? (I haven't read all the responses here, so if it was stated, please forgive me).

The reason I ask is because my gelding currently has a summer sore and it often bleeds from his nipping at it. He is under a vet's care, and all is under control. But if a vet or the owner never confirmed that the little guy does indeed have cancer, it might hurt the situation to make accusations that have no merrit. Just something to be careful of.

 

[AppyLover2]

Mary many, many pages ago someone looked up records of Vern's mini ownership. I don't remember exactly what she found but I do remember that a huge number were registered in his name.

Another topic........while we're waiting for news.

In the past 3 days I've sent out a minimum of 26 emails. I received a response to 4 of them. One was from Fox4 when they told me they were heading for the farm and asked for pictures. The other 3 were automatic returns notifying me that the mail was not delivered because the House and Senate are not in session.

Has anyone received actual written replies.....even the ones that basically say don't call us, we'll call you?

Gotta say it's been a very frustrating experience!!

 

[paintnthings]

Earlier I posted that I was in contact with someone from Dreamhorse forum that was in KS. This is the e-mail she sent me today. Not much help, but another contact suggestion.

Yesterday I forwarded the link to one of the Horse rescues in Bourban County, they probably already had it/knew of it, and I forwarded the message to the Fort Scott Community College-rodeo coach. FSCC is right around the corner from Uniontown. There are lots of college age caring horse "kids" that would be appauled.

 

[sre-showtime]

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[Soggy Bottom Ranch]

Has anyone received actual written replies.....even the ones that basically say don't call us, we'll call you?

I have e-mailed many, and faxed as well as called. The only "1" response I got back was a blanket statement type of e-mail from Good Morning America just today.

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