Robin_C
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If you've followed Marty's thread on confusion about what to feed, you'll understand what is prompting this thread and the ensuing project that I will be working on along with several helpful volunteers! In fact, the whole point of this exercise is so EVERYONE can contribute!
GOAL OF PROJECT:
1) To collect information about different feeds and supplements, to include the guaranteed analysis from the bag tags/labels, feeding recommendations and "hidden information" about feeds such as starch/sugar levels as well as calories per pound.
2) To display that information in a manner which will allow the reader to compare nutritional levels supplied by feed and supplement choices.
3) To better familiarize you with how to read bag tag information and how your feeding choices affect your horses.
4) To provide a baseline guide for nutrition levels required on a daily basis by miniature horses, loosely based on the current NRC Nutrition Requirements of Horses.
THIS PROJECT WILL NOT:
1) Be responsible for accuracy of figures. The data collectors can only interpret the figures as supplied by the manufacturers. No assumption can be made as to the accuracy of those figures. Data will be compiled from the most recent data available and the date collected will be noted. Changes may occur after the date of data collection which may affect the project's accuracy.
2) Will NOT tell you what feed is the best choice for your horses BASED ON OPINION nor experience, and will show no bias towards one feed vs. another. All data reporting will be done objectively, reflecting verifiable numbers only.
ITEMS TO KEEP IN MIND:
1) Data collected by the group will only reflect nutrients supplied by feeds and/or supplements. The NRC Nutrient Requirements for Horses reflect nutrient levels required from ALL feed sources on a daily basis, including hay/forage, feed and supplements. Hay and forage nutrient levels MUST be taken into consideration when determining a balanced ration for your horse. The figures supplied by this project should be taken into consideration with specific nutritional data from your hay and/or forage (as determined by laboratory analysis) in order to determine full nutritional value of your feeding program. Forage figures may be supplied by this project at a future date and will be based on "averages" and noted as such. The nutritional component of YOUR specific hay or forage may differ, sometimes radically, from those averages.
WHAT YOU CAN PROVIDE TO HELP WITH THE PROJECT:
1) The guaranteed analysis from your feed product. This can be obtained several ways: a link to the web site that shows the complete analysis, a JPG copy of a scanned bag tag or a typed list of the guaranteed analysis including all items noted by a %, mg or ppm.
2) A list of ingredients from the ingredient list on bag (different from the guaranteed analysis). The first 10 items will be sufficient.
3) Feeding instructions as per the manufacturer.
EXTRA BONUS:
Weigh 1 cup of your feed and provide that weight in ounces.
This following is a list of the feed products (defined as food in 40-50 # bags, making up a key ingredient in the diet) and supplements (defined as any smaller containers which could be found on a store shelf or catalogue), forage (hay or hay substitutes). If they are on this list, we already have the information required EXCEPT if you note missing information (indicated by "not available yet", such as weight per cup, NSC value (starch and sugar), DE (calories), please feel free to supply it! Add your information on this thread, then I'll move it up to this list in Alphabetical Order.
Once you commit to a product, try to gather as much information as possible about it. #1 -- It behooves you to find out as much info as possible about what you are feeding and #2) aside from the Guaranteed Analysis, it would be good to have weight per cup,the DE per pound (calories) and NSC (starch and sugar). This info can be obtained from the manufacturer and since your bag will have the 800# on it, it would be wonderful if YOU would call and ask for that information (but if you'd really rather not, let me know the toll-free #).
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[SIZE=10pt]FEEDS: [/SIZE]
ACCO
Safe & Sound...(Chanda)... oz/cup= ; NSC= ; calories/oz=
Blue Seal
Demand...(Donna/Funny Farm) ? oz/cup; NSC=26% ; calories/oz =
Rider...(Donna/Funny Farm) ? oz/cup; NSC=44% ; calories/oz=
Trotter...(Donna/Funny Farm) ? oz/cup; NSC=25% ; calories/oz=
Buckeye:
Gro N Win....(Whitney) 4 oz/cup; NSC= ; calories/oz=
Safe & Easy, pellets: ? oz/cup; NSC=12.5%; calories/oz=
Safe & Easy, textured: ? oz/cup; NSC=16%; calories/oz=
Envision
Classic...(Chanda): ? oz/cup; NSC= ; calories/oz=
Lo Carb...(Chanda): ? oz/cup; NSC= ; calories/oz=
LMF:
Lo Carb Complete....info linked (Liz/Hosscrazy) ? oz/cup; NSC= ; calories/oz=
Nutrena
Lite Balance...calories/oz = 62.5; NSC= ; ? oz/cup
Safe Choice....linked (Tapestry/Christine), ? oz/cup; NSC= 22-28% as tested; calories/oz=
Vitality 12% ...link provided (JDHand/Dinda) ? oz/cup; NSC= ; calories/oz=
Vitality 14% (JDHand/Dinda) ? oz/cup; NSC= ; calories/oz=
Youth...(Chanda) ? oz/cup; NSC= ; calories/oz=79.06
Life Design Sr...(Buckskin Gal): 5.5 oz/cup; NSC= ; calories/oz=
Oats, whole (Robin C) oz/cup; NSC= ; calories/oz=81
Oats, crimped 4 oz/cup; NSC= ; calories/oz=81
Platform
Mini Formula (Mindy/Chamomile) 5 oz/cup; NSC= ;calories/oz=
Mare and Foal (Mindy/Chamomile)? oz/cup; NSC= ; calories/oz=
Performance (? Mindy/Chamomile)? oz/cup; NSC= ; calories/oz=
Progressive
Alfalfa balancer (Becky/Redrock) ? oz/cup; NSC = ; calories/oz=
Grass Balancer (Chanda) 5.4 oz/cup; NSC = ; calories/oz=
High Fat formula (Becky/Redrock) ? oz/cup; NSC = ; calories/oz=
Lo Carb: 4.9 oz/cup; NSC= ; calories/oz=
Purina
Born To Win (Robin C) oz/cup; NSC = 16%; calories/oz=
Mare & Maintenance oz/cup= ; NSC= ; calories/oz=
Adult (Robin1) have all info needed 5.1 oz/cup; NSC=20%; calories=68.75/oz
Jr (Robin 1) 5.1 oz per cup; NSC=23%; calories=84.37 oz.
Sr (Robin 1) 5.1 oz per cup; NSC= 22%; calories/oz=
Strategy (Justagirl): 5.75 oz/cup; NSC=28% ; calories/oz=94
Ultium...(Jan/Wildoak)...5.5 oz/cup; NSC= ; calories/oz=112.5
Southern States
Legends 12% (Sterling)... oz/cup= ; NSC= ; calories/oz=
Triple Crown
30...info linked (Whitney) - ? oz/cup; NSC= ; calories/oz=
Growth (Robin C) 5.5 oz/cup; NSC=19.8 ; calories/oz= 100
Lite (Robin C) oz/cup; NSC=15.9%; calories/oz=71.87
Woodys
Senior...(Chanda): oz/cup =5.3 ; NSC= ; calories/oz=
Sweet 12...(Chanda): oz/cup= ; NSC= ; calories/oz=
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[SIZE=10pt]SUPPLEMENTS [/SIZE] (Items generally bought off a shelf or available through catalogue in smaller containers).
We have information for:
Black Oil Sunflower seed (BOSS) / Robin C; 1/4 cup = 0.8 oz; NSC=5.6%
Flax / Robin C; 1 tbsp = 0.5 oz 1 cup = 6 oz; NSC = 36%; calories = 100/oz
Quiessence / Robin C
Rice Bran, Natural Glo....info linked (Liz/Hosscrazy)
Nutrena Empower: 1 cup=8oz; 125 calories/oz
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[SIZE=10pt]FORAGE[/SIZE]
Alfalfa Pellets
? manufacturer (Becky/Redrock)
small pellet (Purina, Tractor Supply) 5.3 oz/cup; NSC= ; calories/oz=
Beet Pulp, Midwest AgriSuppliers...shreds (Robin C)
Beet Pulp, pellets, ? brand...(Lisa)....8 oz/cup; NSC= ; calories/oz=
Mountain Sunrise, Timothy Pellets....info linked (Liz/Hosscrazy)
Standlee
orchardgrass pellets 5.3 oz/cup; NSC= ; calories/oz=
timothy pellets 5.3 oz/cup; NSC= ; calories/oz=
Robin C
GOAL OF PROJECT:
1) To collect information about different feeds and supplements, to include the guaranteed analysis from the bag tags/labels, feeding recommendations and "hidden information" about feeds such as starch/sugar levels as well as calories per pound.
2) To display that information in a manner which will allow the reader to compare nutritional levels supplied by feed and supplement choices.
3) To better familiarize you with how to read bag tag information and how your feeding choices affect your horses.
4) To provide a baseline guide for nutrition levels required on a daily basis by miniature horses, loosely based on the current NRC Nutrition Requirements of Horses.
THIS PROJECT WILL NOT:
1) Be responsible for accuracy of figures. The data collectors can only interpret the figures as supplied by the manufacturers. No assumption can be made as to the accuracy of those figures. Data will be compiled from the most recent data available and the date collected will be noted. Changes may occur after the date of data collection which may affect the project's accuracy.
2) Will NOT tell you what feed is the best choice for your horses BASED ON OPINION nor experience, and will show no bias towards one feed vs. another. All data reporting will be done objectively, reflecting verifiable numbers only.
ITEMS TO KEEP IN MIND:
1) Data collected by the group will only reflect nutrients supplied by feeds and/or supplements. The NRC Nutrient Requirements for Horses reflect nutrient levels required from ALL feed sources on a daily basis, including hay/forage, feed and supplements. Hay and forage nutrient levels MUST be taken into consideration when determining a balanced ration for your horse. The figures supplied by this project should be taken into consideration with specific nutritional data from your hay and/or forage (as determined by laboratory analysis) in order to determine full nutritional value of your feeding program. Forage figures may be supplied by this project at a future date and will be based on "averages" and noted as such. The nutritional component of YOUR specific hay or forage may differ, sometimes radically, from those averages.
WHAT YOU CAN PROVIDE TO HELP WITH THE PROJECT:
1) The guaranteed analysis from your feed product. This can be obtained several ways: a link to the web site that shows the complete analysis, a JPG copy of a scanned bag tag or a typed list of the guaranteed analysis including all items noted by a %, mg or ppm.
2) A list of ingredients from the ingredient list on bag (different from the guaranteed analysis). The first 10 items will be sufficient.
3) Feeding instructions as per the manufacturer.
EXTRA BONUS:
Weigh 1 cup of your feed and provide that weight in ounces.
This following is a list of the feed products (defined as food in 40-50 # bags, making up a key ingredient in the diet) and supplements (defined as any smaller containers which could be found on a store shelf or catalogue), forage (hay or hay substitutes). If they are on this list, we already have the information required EXCEPT if you note missing information (indicated by "not available yet", such as weight per cup, NSC value (starch and sugar), DE (calories), please feel free to supply it! Add your information on this thread, then I'll move it up to this list in Alphabetical Order.
Once you commit to a product, try to gather as much information as possible about it. #1 -- It behooves you to find out as much info as possible about what you are feeding and #2) aside from the Guaranteed Analysis, it would be good to have weight per cup,the DE per pound (calories) and NSC (starch and sugar). This info can be obtained from the manufacturer and since your bag will have the 800# on it, it would be wonderful if YOU would call and ask for that information (but if you'd really rather not, let me know the toll-free #).
*************************************
[SIZE=10pt]FEEDS: [/SIZE]
ACCO
Safe & Sound...(Chanda)... oz/cup= ; NSC= ; calories/oz=
Blue Seal
Demand...(Donna/Funny Farm) ? oz/cup; NSC=26% ; calories/oz =
Rider...(Donna/Funny Farm) ? oz/cup; NSC=44% ; calories/oz=
Trotter...(Donna/Funny Farm) ? oz/cup; NSC=25% ; calories/oz=
Buckeye:
Gro N Win....(Whitney) 4 oz/cup; NSC= ; calories/oz=
Safe & Easy, pellets: ? oz/cup; NSC=12.5%; calories/oz=
Safe & Easy, textured: ? oz/cup; NSC=16%; calories/oz=
Envision
Classic...(Chanda): ? oz/cup; NSC= ; calories/oz=
Lo Carb...(Chanda): ? oz/cup; NSC= ; calories/oz=
LMF:
Lo Carb Complete....info linked (Liz/Hosscrazy) ? oz/cup; NSC= ; calories/oz=
Nutrena
Lite Balance...calories/oz = 62.5; NSC= ; ? oz/cup
Safe Choice....linked (Tapestry/Christine), ? oz/cup; NSC= 22-28% as tested; calories/oz=
Vitality 12% ...link provided (JDHand/Dinda) ? oz/cup; NSC= ; calories/oz=
Vitality 14% (JDHand/Dinda) ? oz/cup; NSC= ; calories/oz=
Youth...(Chanda) ? oz/cup; NSC= ; calories/oz=79.06
Life Design Sr...(Buckskin Gal): 5.5 oz/cup; NSC= ; calories/oz=
Oats, whole (Robin C) oz/cup; NSC= ; calories/oz=81
Oats, crimped 4 oz/cup; NSC= ; calories/oz=81
Platform
Mini Formula (Mindy/Chamomile) 5 oz/cup; NSC= ;calories/oz=
Mare and Foal (Mindy/Chamomile)? oz/cup; NSC= ; calories/oz=
Performance (? Mindy/Chamomile)? oz/cup; NSC= ; calories/oz=
Progressive
Alfalfa balancer (Becky/Redrock) ? oz/cup; NSC = ; calories/oz=
Grass Balancer (Chanda) 5.4 oz/cup; NSC = ; calories/oz=
High Fat formula (Becky/Redrock) ? oz/cup; NSC = ; calories/oz=
Lo Carb: 4.9 oz/cup; NSC= ; calories/oz=
Purina
Born To Win (Robin C) oz/cup; NSC = 16%; calories/oz=
Mare & Maintenance oz/cup= ; NSC= ; calories/oz=
Adult (Robin1) have all info needed 5.1 oz/cup; NSC=20%; calories=68.75/oz
Jr (Robin 1) 5.1 oz per cup; NSC=23%; calories=84.37 oz.
Sr (Robin 1) 5.1 oz per cup; NSC= 22%; calories/oz=
Strategy (Justagirl): 5.75 oz/cup; NSC=28% ; calories/oz=94
Ultium...(Jan/Wildoak)...5.5 oz/cup; NSC= ; calories/oz=112.5
Southern States
Legends 12% (Sterling)... oz/cup= ; NSC= ; calories/oz=
Triple Crown
30...info linked (Whitney) - ? oz/cup; NSC= ; calories/oz=
Growth (Robin C) 5.5 oz/cup; NSC=19.8 ; calories/oz= 100
Lite (Robin C) oz/cup; NSC=15.9%; calories/oz=71.87
Woodys
Senior...(Chanda): oz/cup =5.3 ; NSC= ; calories/oz=
Sweet 12...(Chanda): oz/cup= ; NSC= ; calories/oz=
*****************************
[SIZE=10pt]SUPPLEMENTS [/SIZE] (Items generally bought off a shelf or available through catalogue in smaller containers).
We have information for:
Black Oil Sunflower seed (BOSS) / Robin C; 1/4 cup = 0.8 oz; NSC=5.6%
Flax / Robin C; 1 tbsp = 0.5 oz 1 cup = 6 oz; NSC = 36%; calories = 100/oz
Quiessence / Robin C
Rice Bran, Natural Glo....info linked (Liz/Hosscrazy)
Nutrena Empower: 1 cup=8oz; 125 calories/oz
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[SIZE=10pt]FORAGE[/SIZE]
Alfalfa Pellets
? manufacturer (Becky/Redrock)
small pellet (Purina, Tractor Supply) 5.3 oz/cup; NSC= ; calories/oz=
Beet Pulp, Midwest AgriSuppliers...shreds (Robin C)
Beet Pulp, pellets, ? brand...(Lisa)....8 oz/cup; NSC= ; calories/oz=
Mountain Sunrise, Timothy Pellets....info linked (Liz/Hosscrazy)
Standlee
orchardgrass pellets 5.3 oz/cup; NSC= ; calories/oz=
timothy pellets 5.3 oz/cup; NSC= ; calories/oz=
Robin C
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