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Right now, he is on pasture and at night he gets three cups of the mini feed, one cup of alfalfa pellets and a cup of sweet feed. With a Red Cell supplement added in.He loves it. But the problem still remains, no weight gain. What am I doing wrong?
unless he is tiny that is not much feed at all. you really should feed in pounds not cups. a cup of feed or pellets is barely anything

gradually increase his feed. if you are feeding the mini feed i would cut out the sweet feed, cut the red cell and give him feed and hay and thats it.

why are you feeding him red cell? Has he been tested to be anemic? I never use red cell long term or it can mess them up
 
However, I have a SUPER hard-keeper gelding... he just won't gain any weight, no matter what diet. He is fed alone, away from the other herd members.

Right now, he is on pasture and at night he gets three cups of the mini feed, one cup of alfalfa pellets and a cup of sweet feed. With a Red Cell supplement added in.

He loves it. But the problem still remains, no weight gain. What am I doing wrong?

Do I need to switch his diet again?

Other than problems with him (his teeth are fine), I am really happy with this feed.
Like someone else said, he might not be getting enough. I don't know how big your guy is, so don't know how much he should get of the mini feed, but... Most small pellet feeds are about 5oz/cup (standard kitchen cup), so 3 cups is just shy of a pound. The alfalfa pellets probably weigh about the same, and the sweet feed is probably about 4oz/cup. [i've weighed many pelleted, textured and sweet feed and have kept a chart.]

My hard keeper gelding (37" tall, about 350#) gets 1# twice daily of a mix of senior and sweet feed (I premix it at a ratio of 2 parts senior to 1 part sweet - the feed company says to mix it 1:1, but I like the 2:1 better) and he finally gained some weight and is now holding weight. He also gets free choice grass hay, and will soon get started on pasture.
 
why are you feeding him red cell? Has he been tested to be anemic? I never use red cell long term or it can mess them up
My neighbor, who is a equine nutritionist, suggested I do it. I didn't know it could be harmful. So far no trouble with it, but I will stop it until I can do more research. Thank you!

Like someone else said, he might not be getting enough. I don't know how big your guy is, so don't know how much he should get of the mini feed, but... Most small pellet feeds are about 5oz/cup (standard kitchen cup), so 3 cups is just shy of a pound. The alfalfa pellets probably weigh about the same, and the sweet feed is probably about 4oz/cup. [i've weighed many pelleted, textured and sweet feed and have kept a chart.]My hard keeper gelding (37" tall, about 350#) gets 1# twice daily of a mix of senior and sweet feed (I premix it at a ratio of 2 parts senior to 1 part sweet - the feed company says to mix it 1:1, but I like the 2:1 better) and he finally gained some weight and is now holding weight. He also gets free choice grass hay, and will soon get started on pasture.

He is 37"... Very tall and refined. I will keep your measurements in mind and keep tweaking things until I get it right.

Thanks all!
 
Here is an article Purina posted today on facebook:

FEEDING BASICS FOR HORSES, MINIATURE HORSES AND PONIES (Article by Katie Young, PhD)

 

For horses, miniature horses and ponies to perform their best, we have to feed them correctly to provide all the nutritional building blocks that their bodies need. Just like people, horses, minis and ponies need protein, vitamins and minerals as well as adequate energy (fuel, or calories) to support maintenance, growth, reproduction and work.

 

In nature, horses spend most of their time eating – grazing grasses and other plants. So it is important when making feeding choices to start with the forage: the pasture and/or hay. All equines need forage to provide calories and other nutrients, plus forage provides fiber to keep the digestive tract healthy. Insufficient fiber can lead to digestive problems such as colic. The hay/pasture needs to be high quality, because the equine digestive tract does not handle poor quality forage well. The amount of hay/pasture is also a concern. Horses, minis and ponies need at least 1 – 1.5 pounds of hay/pasture per 100 lbs body weight each day – so a 1000 lb horse needs at least 10-15 lbs of hay per day.

 

Often, mature equines can maintain their body weight and condition on hay/pasture alone. However, there are some necessary nutrients that are commonly lacking in forages, including some vitamins and minerals. In addition, growing horses, broodmares and working horses usually need an additional source of calories. There are many feeds to choose from to meet those additional nutrient needs. Most commercial feeds are fortified with protein, vitamins and minerals so that when they are added in the diet along with the forage, the total ration will meet the nutritional requirements. Commercial horse feeds are usually a sweet or “textured” feed (a mixture of grains, some molasses, and pellets that contain the vitamins and minerals) or a pelleted feed (grains are ground and mixed with other nutrient sources and ingredients, then pressed into a pellet form). Corn, oats, wheat and wheat products, and barley are common grains found in horse feeds, as well as some forages such as alfalfa and other fiber sources including beet pulp. The choice of feeds depends on the needs of the horse, mini or pony – some feeds are designed for performance (such as Ultium, or Omolene 200 and 500) some for growth and breeding (Ultium Growth and Omolene 300), some for maintenance (Omolene 100 and Strategy Healthy Edge), and some for older “seniors” (Equine Senior). Some feeds, for instance Strategy GX and Purina Miniature Horse & Pony feed, are designed to support multiple lifestyles, including performance, growth, and reproduction.

 

If your horse, mini or pony is an easy keeper (gains weight easily), it may be difficult to feed enough of the commercial fortified feed to provide adequate protein, vitamins and minerals without him or her gaining too much weight. In these cases, a concentrated feed or supplement may be the best choice. These products (such as Purina Nature’s Essentials Enrich 12 or 32) contain more concentrated amounts of nutrients and are designed to be fed in smaller meals, so that the animal does not gain too much weight. There are also feeds available that are specially designed to help overweight equines lose weight, such as WellSolve W/C. For some animals, the only way to keep them from becoming obese is to use a grazing muzzle or keep them off pasture entirely.

 

Once you have chosen the feed and forage source for your own horse or pony, the next step is to decide how much to feed. The feed label will provide directions for the amount to feed, but you’ll need to know how much your horse., mini or pony weighs. If you have access to a livestock scale, then it is easy to weigh your animal. If not, you can use a body weight tape (check with your Purina feed dealer) to estimate how much he or she weighs.

 

Most people measure feed using some sort of scoop, but you will see in the feeding directions that feed should be measured in pounds. The same volume of different feeds will weigh different amounts, so it is important to weigh the amount of feed that your scoop holds. A simple way to do this is to use a digital fishing scale (you can find these in most sporting goods stores). Just put your scoop of feed in a bag or bucket, and hang it on the scale (be sure to subtract the weight of the empty bucket!). You can also weigh the hay, so that you know how much hay you are feeding.

 

If you are not sure if your horse or pony is the right weight, you can use the Body Condition Scoring system. This system (developed by researchers at Texas A&M University) is an objective method to determine if your animal is thin, fat, or just right. It ranges from a score of 1 (poor, or extremely thin) to 9 (extremely fat). In general, horses and ponies should be a body condition score 5 (moderate). Looking from the side, if you cannot see any ribs, but you can feel the ribs easily under the skin, that is a score of 5. For more information on the body conditions scoring system, you can visit our website at horse.purinamills.com.

 

Once you’ve chosen the feed and forage, and determined how much to feed every day, you are ready to go. With good care and nutrition along with proper management and veterinary care, your miniature horse, pony or horse should be ready for you to ride and have fun for years to come!

The tall and refined ones are always seems like they are harder keepers. Besides the not gaining weight part does he seem to have a poor hair coat and just lethargic. Those are just some signs of being anemic and thats when red cell comes into play but I've also heard you don't want to use it long term. If anything I would try using a weight supplement. I would give your horse plenty of hay.
 
So, good news!

I called my local feed store and they will be ordering the new Miniature Horse feed!
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But that's not the best part!

It'll only cost me $13!
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*dies*

That's a $6 difference from what I'm paying for Omelene 300.

I may have died and gone to heaven.
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He is 37"... Very tall and refined. I will keep your measurements in mind and keep tweaking things until I get it right.

Thanks all!
The chart for the Mini and Pony feed says maintenance level is 1.3# feed for a 300# mini (I'm going to guess your guy is around 300# if 37" and refined (my 37" boy is decent weight at 350#, weighed on a scale)) plus 3.6# hay for same weight.
 
He is 37"... Very tall and refined. I will keep your measurements in mind and keep tweaking things until I get it right.
Definitely slowly up his feed as that is not enough for that tall of a boy. I think red cell is okay short term but I would never give it long term. I have seen many at the shows get all jumpy from being on it too long. And yes like the article above says feed in pounds not cups. Since hes not at matientnce level yet I would try to get him to 2 lbs of feed and 3.5 lbs of hay and see if he finally levels off. but do it slowly!
 
I've tried doing some research for ya on the red cell and they say horses kept on red cell are like race horses. Unless your horse has a iron defficency then he doesn't need it and giving it to him could cause more harm then good. If your horse does have an issue with the iron more then likely it just has something to do with what he is getting nutritionally. I would try and find something with more protein and more fat. The mini feed may just not be enough for him, remeber what works for some may not work for others. Also if their is any way you can get away from the pellets I would try and just get actual alfalfa hay. I would try and avoid mixing 2 different feeds and go away from the sweet feed.

I've had only 1 horse that was proven anemic and was given red cell but really all he needed was a change of diet and has been fine since. He was on the mini/pony feed by farnam. Thats why I've was leaning towards not using this feed but it sounds like its working.
 
For those of you who don't know how much your horse weighs, try contacting your local feed mill...especially if you're a customer. I have the equine specialist from our mill bring out their portable scale each July (this will be her third trip this year) so I have an accurate idea of what each horse weighs. My mill doesn't charge for this service Of course, I am a very frequent customer and spent a good bit there every year! My vet is very happy that I have this information as it helps her make accurate decisions that require information based on weight.

Thanks to everyone contributing to this thread....feeding information is always helpful no matter who you are!
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Thanks everyone for the help and information on this feed (and others!)

It is true you are always learning.
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My boy and I will work on it, and he will look good in no time.
 
Just a little update.
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My feed store ordered three bags for me today and said that I should get them by Thursday! Uber excited!
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I've switched from SafeChoice to Purina's new mini feed 3 weeks ago and what I've noticed is that on SafeChoice, I could feed both my geldings (Scout 29.5" & Bullet 35") the same amt with Scout being a little on the pudgy side. Now with Purina's feed, they cannot be fed the same amt. Bullet is losing weight and the Scout is about the same. They are only separated by a partial fence during feeding time so until I change the stall set-up, I can't stop Scout from running Bullet off and eating what is left. I do like how they both seem to be shinier and that's one of the reasons why I wanted to try the new feed. Their coats just didn't have that gleem while on SafeChoice. The other reason is the cost -SafeChoice is $15.49/bag and the Purina Mini is $12.55. Even though I only have 2 to feed, with hay being $9/sq. bale, I thought I'd try something specially designed for minis and with it being a few bucks cheaper, it was appealing. I need to see if the results are worth it to feed more and to separate them at feeding time. It was just real convienient to be able to feed them the same and leave for work when I needed to.
 
I love the feed. I started out with one mature gelding on it and I've switched over two others. Royal does get beet pulp as I'm a sucker and feel like I'm abusing him to only give him a cup and half (2x) when everyone else gets a lot more. He's still a bit on the pudgy side but has a ton of energy that wasn't there last year. He has one of the best coats in the barn as well and I don't feed supplements.

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I was feeding the platform miniature horse and pony for a year and they are slimmer and look healthier. They LOVE the new purina miniature horse and pony and there coats are shinny and nice! I love it and would recommend it to anyone with minis!
 
I will be switching my minis to this new Purina mini feed next month. I also tried the Farnam Platform mini feed. Did not like it. My horses lost their shiny coats, energy and started noticing impactions. Too much fiber?

I feed my mare 1.5 lbs grass hay 2x a day. Millenium Gold 1 scoop.

My gelding gets 1 lb grass hay with 1/2 lb grass hay pellets with scoop of Millenium Gold 2x day.

they look healthy. Not as shiny as I want them to be so am excited to see uf this new feed gives them a shinier coat.....
 
Oh...my gelding gets one scoop not two a day of MG...LOL!!

The price for a bag of Purina Mini Feed in southern Oregon is 22.00 dollars. We are being gouged big time up our way. Gas is 4.25 for regular...
 
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If your skinny gelding doesnt gain any weight soon? I suggest having your vet check his "Creatinine" level. I recently went through that ordeal with my refined mini.
 
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This horse has improved so much ever since getting off the Mini feed last year. The Mini feed by Purina did its job and he lost the weight but he really declined being on it for 3 months.
 

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