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Sanny

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I'm working on a basic list and would like input on it. Assume you have a teen-ager that isn't used to ANY rules, chores or consequences and they are asking you what your expectations are of them and THEY would like a list to start them off on the right foot and keep them out of trouble.

You need to assume they don't know any of the common sense things a child of your own that you have raised would know without having to be told and also that they need to be supervised and watched more closely than most kids their age. Having said that, I happen to think we are pretty strict and have a lot of rules, but when asked this question I couldn't really come up with a "list".

Here is what I started (no, I didn't come up with this on my own, I've been doing research online). I'm looking for what you might add to this.

RULES OF THE HOME

1A. When leaving your room, turn off your room light.

B. You are expected to dress neatly with clean clothes every day and to keep yourself well groomed. Take a shower or a bath and wash your hair at least once a day either before bedtime or before school

C. Your room is to be cleaned weekly: straightened up, dusted, and vacuumed. Your bathroom should be left neat every day and you are responsible for keeping it clean. You are expected to brush your teeth after breakfast and before bed.

D. You will be assigned chores to be done daily/weekly. These may change from day to day and week to week but as a member of the family you are expected to do your fair share.

E. On school days, be at the breakfast table ready for school 30 minutes before bus arrives. (7:45 AM)

2. Telephone calls are limited to 10 minutes per hour, unless permission is obtained in advanced to talk longer. No toll calls (long distance) or 900# calls.

3. When you have a full load of dirty clothes you need to separate the lights and darks and bring your basket to the laundry room and do a wash. When the laundry is done it needs to be folded and put away. One a week you need to do a load that includes your bed sheets (sometime on Saturday or Sunday depending on the weekend family schedule). If you need a particular item washed but don't have a full load, let me know. We always have more laundry that needs to be done and can put it all in together.

4A. Prior permission must be obtained for all outside activities including going to neighbors, visiting friends, after school activities etc. If you are missing for more than 30 minutes, you will be considered a runaway and the police will be notified.

B. Prior permission must be obtained before riding in anyone else's car.

C. Prior permission must be obtained before inviting any guests home.

D. There is mandatory attendance at family events. Failure to comply will result in losing privileges.

5A. The following are not allowed: running in the house, fighting, profane language, kicking, roughhousing, punching, throwing things, hitting, scratching, screaming, threatening to do or doing damage to any person or property, etc. No property destruction, including one's own property. No mistreatment of any pet is allowed. Always keep in mind that you are to treat others with respect and how you would like to be treated.

B. You are not allowed to play with guns, knives, sticks, razors or any similar dangerous item - real or fake.

C. Agitating behavior such as, scaring others (including pets), being rude, stealing and refusing to answer will be disciplined by writing an appropriate amount of " I will not ?".

D. For out of control behavior (having a temper tantrum, arguing, fighting, or having difficulty getting along with others) - you are required to go to your room (or a separate safe place if not at home) until you have calmed down - out of control behavior may result in loss of privileges/activities.

6A. No hard rock music, heavy metal music, or any music that contains profane language. No magazines, clothing or posters that contain any of the above. Questionable materials need to be reviewed before they may be allowed.

B. Stereos, TVs, I-pod, extra lights, etc. must be turned off at bedtime. Any violation will result in losing the item for one week.

C. No smoking at any time which includes in the home or away from home. No possession of matches, lighters, tobacco or drug paraphernalia. Matches should not be found in one's possessions at any time.

D. No drug or alcohol use.

7A. Maximum Curfew when behavior is satisfactory: 9:00pm on school nights and 10:00pm on Friday and Saturday. Later curfews will be allowed case by case for special occasions.

B. Children of the opposite sex are not permitted in bedrooms at the same time for any reason. Children of the same sex must get permission to visit another child's bedroom. Bathroom use is one person at a time.

8A. Satisfactory school report cards are necessary for permission to attend social events. A minimum grade of "C" is satisfactory. Grades that are above "C" are rewarded with extra privileges or money.

B. Extra money can be earned by doing yard work, outside work, barn work, washing cars, cleaning the garage, storage room, closets, etc. Daily routine chores must be completed first.

9A. All food is to be eaten in the kitchen unless special permission is granted. If you get permission one day, do not assume it applies for subsequent days...you always need to ask first.

B. You are required to clean up your messes and spills etc. If you are unable to do it on your own, then you will be helped by an adult.

Some of this seems a little institutional or harsh but I think is what she is looking for. We've already talked about communication and respect and the importance of being open and honest and asking for help or guidance when needed.

What would you add?
 
Well you know me, you know alot about me, so you will know that I dont agree with a few of them. You know what they are and I think they will cause more problems then good in this girls case.
 
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This is a joke, right?????

That would last about 3 seconds around here.

And it did.

Good Luuuuuuuuucccccccckkkkk

They called me Frauline Gustopo if that's a hint
 
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I don't think much of that list sounds too extraordinary for someone who needs to ask what will keep them out of trouble. I was a good kid but my mother always required me to call her immediately when I got home from school, call her before going anywhere to tell her where I was going and with who and for how long and to do what and call her immediately upon my return. I didn't like it much then but am thankful now that she cared and likely kept me out of trouble I didn't even know was out there.

My mom always asked if I had any homework and later if I had completed it. As a teen I was responsible for cleaning our house (NOT just my own room), doing the dishes and our laundry and taking care of the pets. I had a habit of spending way too much time on the computer but was always good about not going to bad websites so I was rarely given any time limits, etc. With that in mind, if this teen has Internet access, that's probably something else you might make a mention of in your rules. I'd also make a rule that no gang related or inspired activity will be tolerated, including clothing or gestures. I'll be sure to add anything else I can think of later...
 
OK mare in all fairness I started out with a list like that some years ago........and now it has been modified to this:

1. Quit swearing. I mean it. Stop the potty mouths.

2. If you get arrested please call home before daddy goes to bed.

3. Quit tipping Bubba Smith's cows or he's going to make us pay for them.

4. No porn

5. No friends with porn

6. No drinking or drugs or friends that do that

7. Come home, just please come home no matter what time it is, I promise I won't hit you although I'll want

to.

8. Quit swearing.

9. Don't lie to me. A mother knows........

10. No forgeing checks. Stay out of my purse.

11. Don't speed. Please don't speed and don't forget to wear your seat belts.

12. When the cop stop you, please don't smart off and swear.

13. Change the oil in that car and make that music stop booming so loud, thump thump thump

14. Don't give me that look. I hate that look. I know what that look means.

15. Don't make me a grandmother. Oh please don't do that.

16. Quit swearing. I mean it.

17. Please stop that booming noise from your bedroom. The walls are shaking......and cracking.

18. Ok bring her home but you have to leave the door open wide cause I'll be looking and snooping

19. Please change your underwear atleast twice a week and why are you buying those thongs???

Here! Wear these boxers. I ironed them nice for you. See, they got Sponge Bob.

20. You don't have to make me proud. Just be whoever you are and be safe about it and please come

home when you are done not doing #'s 1-19 cause I adore you no matter what.
 
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Hey, Marty...
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I am afraid any teenager I know would stop reading around #2!!!

It's a nice idea but it isn't practical. they would just give up and switch off.
 
7B haha that would not work over here, over here the "bedrooms" is also the place kids play, most families don't have special areas for that, so the same sex thing would not work over here, but I guess it is an american thing, haven't seen it in england, sweden or norway and definetly not in Denmark

the part with only 1 person in the restroom is only hard for girls, I dunno why they can't weewee alone, I never EVER had the urge to invite my friends with me to the restroom when I go weewee and other things, definetly a girl thing, again not very practical over here since many restrooms are uhm rather small compared to the american sizes.

I will avoid commenting on the rest since it would take forever to write that much but I am sure you get the idea hehe

Jesper
 
I don't know the situation, but I have 3 boys 2 are not teenagers anymore 21, 22 and a 15 year old. This my sound corny but lots of comunication with this child your working with. Ask her to help you with this list. That way she cant throw it back in your face and say they were too unrealstic. There are rules you wont bend on, ours was CALL and check in, we need to know where you are at all times! Just a thought, like a few said so many rules is a big turn off and they will break them all just to tick you off!

Good Luck, Kathy
 
We already verbally talked everything on the list out and she still wanted a written list to read. I agree that it is a little overly detailed and a little corny.

In her words though she "wants to know what is expected and will do her best". That is how it was left. Several things are mentioned only because she specifically asked about those topics. If you read it again, a lot of specific and words were used but there is a very simple common theme I tried to get across to her. Keep your room clean, brush your teeth, make school a priority, do your homework, help out around the house, be nice to the pets, no drugs, no smoking, no swearing, be respectful of others and treat others the way you want to be treated, talk about your problems, let us know where you are and who you are with and what you are doing at all times.....all pretty basic stuff most families would expect of their children without spelling it out for them. Not saying it will always be followed to the letter - all a person can do is try their best - but this is for a kid that didn't have ANY rules. In spite of that and kind of being her own parent she hasn't actually gotten herself in any major trouble yet. The bathroom room and bedroom thing is standard if you have any concerns at all about a child having been exposed to sexual abuse and is more to protect other kids (especially your own) until you know them better and know for sure it is ok.

It is actually pretty much a list that is recommended for foster kids on another forum. I didn't get into all the details and why some things are on it for privacy reasons.
 
Well if she has input and is agreeable to it looks like you have a deal I would think. I know someone told me about writing out and signing a contract on what is expected from everyone in the family. Good luck to you, Kathy
 
I think your list is great. As a new kid coming into the family (I'm assuming thats the situation anyway) this leaves no room for error. Especially since she did ask. I don't think any of your rules are out of line, and I don't think they are strict either. Again, you mentioned she didn't have the same background and common sense that other children have, so some things that might seem like an unspoken rule to some, would be totally unknown to her. I think you did great, and I think its going to help her out. Now she doesn't have to spend much time worrying about doing the wrong thing because she KNOWS what the rules are. She also knows which rules are negotiable and which aren't, and what she can do to keep you guys happy. All children really want it approval, and now she knows exactly how to gain yours. I honestly think this list may do wonders for her self esteem, as it will be easy (well, I mean, she may have to work at remembering some things) to act appropriately, because you have told her what appropriate it. I also know its fair in your household because I know that these are the rules all of your children follow.

And I KNOW you'll sit down and explain anything she still doesn't understand. I think what you're doing is great, if more kids had someone like you to turn to, well, the world would simply be a better place.

I can't thin kof anything to add, other than maybe for the daily and weekly chores you expect of her you could give a few examples and when chores are assigned write them down for her so she can check it and cross things off and make sure she knows how you expect them to be done as she might not ever have been asked to do it before. Better yet, have her write things down as you assign them, this will help her in school as well as she will get used to writing down assignments as they are assigned both at home and at school.
 
YIKES :eek:

Not to be rude but I stopped reading at #2.
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I cannot imagine being handed that list of rules now or ever.

Keep them much simpler like Be respectful, helpful, basic chores, the details of that list would be mindboggling.

What happens if the list isn't followed?

I am sure the intentions were good but this list comes off to me as just a list of ways to control a kid. I would think it would have the opposite affect, certainly when I was a teen I would have seen that as a reason to rebel against it, too harsh.

This is all IMO
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I don't know the situation or the kid involved but I would never expect a kid to follow a list of rules lihe that.
 
I read the list twice and could live in someone's house by it easily. It isn't that difficult and most of it is just COMMON SENSE.
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I agree with Melanie.
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I really admire you for wanting to give structure to this kids life...too many have none and it really shows on them. The only problem I have with making rules for someone else is that I then have the responsibility of seeing that they are followed...I try to keep it simple so it isn't so hard for me to follow up on. Good luck. Mary
 
Well if you know Sanny and have met her kids, you couldnt ask for better kids. They are very respecting and will grow up to be some fine adults.

I wish more of todays kids were like hers. She has done a heck of a job with them.
 

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