ClickMini said:Also, regarding the cavesson. Since you are helping design this, you must have had some thoughts on cavesson, vs. a noseband that connects directly through the cheekpieces. Please share.
ClickMini said:Kim, I am really trying to learn. What do you view as being desirable about a separate cavesson? As I understand it, the noseband arrangement where it feeds through the bridle cheekpiece holds the cheekpiece flush against the horse's face when the rein is taught, so there is no gaping where the horse can see behind his blinkers.
This is interesting. I've picked up several great carriage driving books recently and I was fascinated to see that BOTH of them stated that the only purpose for a cavesson or nosepiece of any kind on a driven horse is to hold the cheekpieces close to the horse's head in case the horse takes hold of the bit in such a way as to make the bridle temporarily gape and allow him to see behind the blinkers. I come from big horses where the cavesson is to keep their little mouths shut (supposedly), and like Kim I never use it for that preferring to let the horse learn to keep their mouth shut on their own. Any driving horse of mine will also learn to drive in an open bridle so I'm not spectacularly worried about a stolen glimpse of the cart following.willowoodstables said:I like them seperate due to the fact I find too many ponies/minis "pinch" when the noseband is buckled thru the cheek pieces. A properly fit bridle (sidecheck) should never "gape". -Kim
It's not you--it's the harness. I didn't like it either. I don't like nosebands that aren't fastened, and it was missing a keeper under the chin for it's tab.I own the original version of this harness, Ozark Mountain's Carriage harness. On MINE, and it could just be my horse, the separate cavesson slides forward into my horse's eyes all the time and looked pretty bad
That was one of the corrections on the first edition--the collar didn't have a deep enough V and it wasn't padded enough. There also wasn't enough padding on the saddle, and there was no gullet. I wanted a firm tree, not the "surcingle" 99% of mini harnesses have. The hip straps on the britching didn't hang right either.Dr Pam, I did think the breast collar was "V"'d??
I love the chain--and it's easy to remove for cleaning. I like the tear drops on the forehead and the false martingale, too--nice touch. BTW, these pictures show a sidecheck, which I left on for pictures, but I don't use them for CDE.I like the addition of chain on the browband instead of brass spots, and I like the teardrop
Nope, it's from Ozark.Did you say it was from Carriage House?
I realized my mistake after I reread the posts. I really like this harness but am realizing that not only do I have a beer budget but I am going to need to build an addition onto the house just to store harnesses and carts.Dr. Pam said:Nope, it's from Ozark.Did you say it was from Carriage House?
The "Carriage Harness" she has available now is nice, but this one is a whole different critter. We've talked about some options and changes in the original for those of us with champagne tastes and a beer budget
Oh my God. It removes for cleaning?! I HAVE TO HAVE THIS HARNESS!!!I love the chain--and it's easy to remove for cleaning.