RhineStone said:
Leia, I'm not sure that you are comparing apples to oranges. The Ozark harness that has all the bells and whistles that you like on mine is their CDE Show Harness for $1500!
It has the rein terrets and the teardrop. Granted it includes a Fitted V breastcollar and I use a FC, but for that $, I am still ahead. I think the reason that the rein terrets are not included on the DE harnesses is because the average mini horse owner is not going to pay for the upgrade. (Let's face it, typical mini drivers won't pay NEAR what big horse drivers pay for good equipment! Just for fun, what is the most you have ever heard of a mini driver spending on their most expensive single-horse turnout?
)
Huh??
I'm not comparing anything- as Minimor stated, I was merely mentioning that a bridle with fleur de lis like you described is available and on sale by itself right now. (The CDE harness actually doesn't have the blinker decorations; I was talking about their Deluxe Rolled Leather show harness.) All I meant was that the parts I was admiring on the DE harness you pictured on the Verbage thread are all turning out to be things you added or special ordered, not parts that just come with the harness as I'd hoped. That made it less interesting to me since I'm already piecing together harness and was hoping to avoid that. Besides isn't the fancy DE leather harness in the same ball-park $$$-wise as the Ozark CDE harness? Most the nice leather ones I've seen are over $1,000.
I'm not sure I agree that mini people don't spend much on their turnout. Not only can a Smart Cart and fancy CDE harness of several brands add up to about $4,000 but take a look at the breed ring!
Here's a Jerald Roadmaster with all the options I'd want:
Roadmaster Model AM 49 Inch Drop Heel Shafts
Walnut Stained Body + $ 150.00
Gold Ribbon with Black Edge Stripe
Painted Undercarriage
Velvet Flat Button Tufted Cushion + $ 75.00
Brass Shaft Tips + $ 12.50
Brass Polished Whip Socket + $ 8.00
Large Patent Dash with Fancy Top Brass Rail + $ 256.00
Natural Wood Basket with Patent Leather Boot
24 Inch Wooden Wheels with Painted Hub + $ 663.50
Complete Cart Covers with 24 Inch Wooden Wheel Quilted Pockets + $ 510.00
Forest Green Cart Cover Color
Brass Shaft Stops + $ 90.00
Painted Stirrups + $ 117.00
Grand Total: $ 3727.00...PLUS tax and shipping.
Lutke harness BASE PRICE: $900, plus plenty of options = $1,000+ easily.
Total? More than $5,000 for one mini to go around an arena for five minutes in a fine harness. Suddenly $3,000 or so for a CDE turnout seems not so bad to me!
Yes, big horse pleasure show vehicles and marathon four-wheelers cost an arm and a leg. But for a similar vehicle type to that which we're pricing here the cost isn't that much more.
As far as the teardrop not being standard and causing the browband to be low, it is because I have it put through the small leather loop on the backside of the browband and behind the winker stays, which is where it is supposed to be.
http://www.drivingessentials.com/pop%20up%..._gig_bridle.htm (I picked this photo b/c it was the easiest to see.)
I suppose I could cop out and put the whole face drop under the winker stays, like Ozark does.
However, would rather have my browband a little low, than to have a judge think that I don't know where the face drop is supposed to go. I think that DE had decided that they would rather not put out a product that is incorrect for the sake of style. It's probably not worth redesigning for the few that would like it and would pay the $. Again, there is only so much room. (Really, I wouldn't mind having a leather sewing machine and designing my own harness
, but that is out of the question. $$$)
This is my turnout from last year without the teardrop, and you can see how the browband is higher (actually, a little crooked, should have fixed that
). However, in the competition that I have, I felt that I needed all the extras I can get. That is why I borrowed the DE raised leather facedrop off my small pony harness. (I also put that white hat back in the hat box for a different turnout. Yuck!
Like the shape, it's just TOO white!)
And all of this is why I am just not meant for Pleasure Shows!!
I will fuss forever for my horse's comfort and overall appearance, but nitpicking to that level about minute style points is beyond me.
More power to you though!
By the way, the chain browband I have from the fancy Ozark CDE harness does have that little keeper behind the browband. I'm sure they could include that feature with the show bridle if you asked, or you could just substitute in your current browband. Be creative!
Leia