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How long do you wait after a mare foals before you would give her oxytocin if she hasn't cleaned? also how much do you give her she weighs approly 300#
 
When you say that the mare hasn't "cleaned"........do you mean passed the placenta?

We get concerned if it hasn't passed within the first 3 hours and three hours is rare. I would call your vet about this.

MA
 
Yes , I did mean to say that she hadn't lost the placenta yet. Called my vet and he told me to give her 1/2 cc if she didn't drop it after 3 hours and if need be to give him a call. good news when i went back to check it was all taken care of and mom and baby are doing fine.]
 
Glad you didn't have to give the oxytocin.
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It's not pleasant for the mare because of the cramping.

MA
 
So long as the mare is COMPLETELY OK, no problems no real temperature and is settled to nursing- which usually does take care of it anyway, I will leave her up to eight hours- longer if everything really is fine.

I would not give Oxytocin myself, even on Vet advice- BUT I do appreciate that some of you have to do this- not everyone has a Vet ten minutes away and not every Vet will tip out of their beds at one am for a small thing like a placenta- I do realise the constraints.

If I HAD to do it I would start off with half the suggested dosage- or work it out for myself using the mares weight and the leaflet that comes with the product.

Even then I would give less than the prescribed dose- this is potent stuff and you could end up with, worst case scenario- a prolapsed uterus.

Most times the placenta comes away on it's own, if not I will go in and have a root around BUT again, I have been doing this for a long time and was taught how to do this procedure by an Obstetrician, so it is not something to do if you are not sure of your self.

If you just go in and feel in the first instance, exactly as you would if the mare were foaling, yo often have all the info you need as you will be able to tell if the cervix is closing- in which case you do need help- it will not normally close down completely with a placenta still in there but in a very few cases it can happen.

If all is well and open and the placenta is just hanging by one horn- this is normal- then just leave it be, give her a nice fresh bucket of the coldest water you have and wait!!

I would observe closely and I would take temperates regularly but I wold not intervene, with no other reason, for eight hours- Yes, I would worry, but all my afterbirths have come away OK within that time frame- a mare aborting is another matter- as I would have the Vet to give antibiotics anyway I would also have them check the afterbirth and probably give her something to clear it- the couple of times I had this done they did not use Oxytocin there is something else on the market now that is less radical.

In both cases the mares did not even sweat and the placenta came within minutes.

I am glad yours worked out OK it is a very worrying situation.
 
There are many theriogenoligical vets out there that break out in a cold sweat at the prospect of removing a retained placenta. It is one of the most dangerous and risky procedures they do. I wouldn't suggest ANYONE to attempt to do that. It takes such delicate care; one quick or rushed move and you could tear the placenta and kill the mare.

Oxytocin is a very mild way to remove the placenta, and works very well and is much, much safer than manual removal. The dosage varies depending on the situation, and since its a drug I'd highly suggest getting a veterinarian's okay before giving it, but its routine and quite safe. It takes a lot to cause a prolapsed uterous, but the risk of that pales compared to the risk of tearing the placenta by removing it by hand.
 

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