Sherri, yes the forum took a bit of a steamed up turn. And for the record, no, most pony people are decent and I used the comments on this thread as my basis for my earlier post. Infact, we have several friends who are (four letters here) "pony" people (inside joke) who we love, but as always, we have our stable mini friends as well. We have been showing for almost 30 years in the mini industry and we have seen it all, from cowboy tex bringing out his western attire to show his "stud" to what the AMHA/AMHR industry is now, including the ponies that are shown at mini shows, and let me tell ya, some of them are down right scary to be around, and I am NOT a newbie around horses. One example is at a show in Ionia, there was a pony that had to come out with blindfolds on, chains around her feet, 2-3 handlers and people shaking cans with rocks in them to keep the hrose "animated" and then wonders why that horse will not stay in it's stall unless it's tied.. thats just CRAZY! (Thats why I called them hot headed.) Another example: a pony is in a driving class at a show I have attended, and everyone and I mean EVERYONE has to be aware that they are entering the arena becuase they scream "pony coming through, Pony coming through! watch out!"...well, us "mini" people are not ignorant, probably not going to run out infront of a horse, any horse for that matter, however those owners know that their pony could freak out at any moment and therefore have to make sure the entire makeup arena knows they are around. this isn't my opinion, this is what I have seen with my own eyes. Now, I know all ponies aren't like this, just like all mini people aren't "ignorant" to the pony/mini cross, some just don't want it. Thats all. Some do, some don't and I am a don't person. Sorry for any hard feelings, Just wanted to get my 2 cents in.