Thanks for that link but I don't see any leather halters on there, if I'm missing something, could you tell me? I want a couple leather ones to take nice pictures with. You know that breeding, grazing muzzle on there for $47 is always on Ebay for about $15. I plan on buying one just in case either of my jacks are rough on the foals, I think Tarbaby may be. The only leather ones I found are on the Braying HIlls site but the one I like is $100 and I don't want to pay that just for pictures, it's a show halter but that's actually what I want but cheaper.