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  1. Nov 4, 2018 #1

    Tala

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    Hi everyone,

    I'm new here and new to the mini world. A few weeks ago we rescued a pony out of the kill pens at an auction and now we just rescued a mini too. They gave us his registration application, photos of him as a baby and he is incredibly sweet. Sometimes I wonder if people who send their horses to auction realize they can end up in the kill pens?

    Anyways, he is 8 years old, intact and missing an eye. We have only had him for about 24 hours but he doesn't seem to be scared of anyone or anything just really sweet and wants to be with somebody all the time. He has a cough and yellow green mucous out of his nose and his empty eye. I sent pictures to my vet and he told me to just go ahead and give him the same antibiotics that our pony has been on for her sinus infection. He's really dirty and needs a good bath but I don't know if I should give him one with his cough?

    I have had horses my entire life but never a mini so any advice anyone wants to give me would be much appreciated. A few questions I have is does he need a blanket? We live in the foothills of Northern California so it isn't exactly freezing but it does get cold. He has a little paddock and a shelter but we do not have a barn with stalls.

    The pony we rescued is a mare and once they are not sick anymore I would like them to be able to go play in our arena together. My farrier said he is a docile little stud so there is no reason he can't go in with her before he's gelded but isn't it possible for a mini horse to impregnate a pony?

    I also would love to train him to go to hospitals and nursing homes. Especially places like Shriners because of his missing eye, I think it would make kids who are missing a piece of themselves feel good. Any tips on how to start that out and even determine if he could be a good fit?

    He is pretty skinny but not a bag of bones, should I free feed him until he starts gaining some weight back? Also, I have a fly mask on him to help protect his empty eye. Does anyone else have any advice for taking care of a one eyed horse that has an empty socket?

    Sorry for the million questions,

    Thank you so so so much!

    Tala


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    Zergling

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    He s very pretty. I am glad you've taken him on and given him a new lease on life.

    A mini can definitely impregnate a pony. However, she obviously would need to be in heat to accept him. I'm not sure about your neck of the woods but here my mares stop cycling this time of year due to the shorter days.

    He does not look to thin judging by those photos. I wouldn't go on a mission to fatten him up too much. Measured amounts of good quality hay, some forage and a supplement like elevate. Maybe some flaxseed oil.

    I don't know what to say about his empty eye socket. A vet would know.

    Hope that helps a little.
     
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    Marsha Cassada

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    A round of antibiotics is a good idea. I brought home a sale horse last month with the same symptoms. I would NOT put a mare and stallion together. he does not need a blanket. Shelter and free choice hay will keep him warm enough. A fly mask is a good idea. Have you had the eye examined?
     
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    I'd have your vet actually see him sooner rather than later about the eye, it should be accessed, and possible surgical intervention to close the socket so it's less likely to be a source of constant irritation and possible infection. Or at least your vet can look to see if the eye was surgically removed or it was an injury that went unattended.
    For now, just good clean grass hay plus a vit/min supplement. Minis are measured at the last hair of the mane, rather than the top of the withers, so get a height on him, and we can help you determine a decent weight range for his size and build, so you have an idea how much to feed him (will also help with deworming). Lay your hands on him and feed through the hair, how easily can you feel his spine, hips and ribs. Easy to feel spine and hips, usually means more protein is needed in the diet; easy to feel ribs means they need more calories.
    Minis should not be give Quest Dewormer, the safety margin is too small; if it must be used, get a scale weight, do NOT estimate or use a tape, and dose precisely for his actual weight.
    Be very cautious with bute, as minis are more prone to the side effects, particularly stomach ulcers. It's another drug that should be dosed precisely for minis.
     
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    I second what Chandab said about having the vet out sooner rather that later. I also wonder if the eye has actually been removed or if it is an older injury and the eye has atrophied. If it has been removed and it is an empty socket, I believe a prosthetic peice can be put under the eyelid and the the lid stitched shut over it to "fill out" socket and keep it from catching dirt and crud in it.
    I had a mare that was partially blind in one eye and she adapted fine, never missed a beat really, once she healed up.
    Fly masks are great if they fit well and don't rub.

    Good luck with him, it is awesome that you took him on. He is a lucky little fella.
     
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    Chandab, I didn't know that about the Quest dewormer. Can you expand on that a bit? Which product should I be using instead?

    Thanks
     
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    Pretty much any other dewormer is safe, it's just the Quest (active ingredient moxidectin) that has the very low safety margin, only like 2x dose by weight can be harmful, whereas ivermectin is like 10x dose by weight is usually safe. Second page of this link states to use extreme caution when using Quest in Miniatures: https://www.horse.com/contentfiles/Associated_Content/QuestLabelInfo.pdf
     
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    Thank you Chandab. I did not know this. I usually treat them with Zimecterin Gold which has ivermectin and praziquental? but I've used Quest when not available.
     
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    Welcome to the forum Tala :)

    First of all , good on you for rescuing them from the sales. You have been given some great advice by everyone. You are very right, If your mare is still cycling, there is every chance your mini could in fact breed the pony , so I would definitely keep them separated until he is gelded.

    I would also recommend the vet , to look over the eye and do a full check up of both rescues. Regarding feeding him, I would start with plain grass hay.

    I wouldn't start him on grain until his teeth have been checked. When you do start introducing him to grain, just do it really slowly.

    Good luck with both :)
     

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