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Refined sugar uses Bone Char in the process but many still consider it still it a vegan lifestyle when eating refined sugar as "animals are not raised for their bones". :new_rofl: Well they aint' raised specifically for their ribs either but I bet that would be off limits.
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The protein in the fluid gelfusine is bovine based. Gelofusine is a product given to many surgery patients.
Let go a little farther. Beef is used in sausage casings, blood sausage, protein extracts, margarine, shortening, chewing gum, ice cream, yogurt, candies, marshmallows, mayonnaise, cake mixes, and pasta. Candles, cellophane, ceramics, make-up, crayons, deodorants, detergent, perfumes, paints, plastics, shaving cream, soaps, pet foods, floor wax, leather, bandages, wallpaper, nail files, glues, combs, piano keys, paint brushes and camera film are just some of the products made with beef
(Ok all you pet loving vegans...what do you feed your dog? Dogs are CARNIVORES.)
Medicine for diabetes and arthritis use beef by-products.
They are used in tires, glue, roads, car polishes and waxes. (Aren't we having fun :lol
(So it's ok to use those products but not eat beef, as that is cruel?)
Now on to eating beef = heart disease. The study that "proved" cutting beef out of your diet lowered your cholesterol was done late 50's early 60's. The group that used margarine instead of butter, had cereal instead of eggs and ate chicken or fish once a day did have a 30 point lower cholesterol score. The other group ate butter, had eggs and ate good old red meat 3x a day. Wow, the medical world just had a break through, but I bet you know the story doesn't end here or why would I make your point for you. Like many good studies this one didn't end there but followed these people through out their life. Group A, the non red meat eaters, had eight people die of heart disease while zero from the filthy three times a day meat eaters did. Well of course the "founder" of the medical breakthrough wasn't going to publish this...he couldn't he died before of vascular thrombosis.
There is a tribe in Africa that does not have heart disease EVEN THOUGH they eat NO vegetables, consider those cattle food, and only consume beef, blood and buttermilk.
Yes in the last eighty years our consumption of beef has increased greatly, just as our increase of heart disease. I still don't see it a clear cut "meat's fault" when our intake of Vegetable oil has increase much higher (over 400%) and our intake of sugars has also skyrocketed but our intake of vegetables, fruits, grains, eggs & potatoes has plummeted.
Some really good ways to lower your cholesterol is to a) become more active b) don't or quit smoking c) reduce your stress. In other words I can't sit here at the computer, eating chips and drinking pop with a cigarette hanging out my mouth getting all worked up about what a vegitarian thinks and holler about red meat giving me high cholesterol. :bgrin
I am still so confused on how they are raised is horrible? I just came from a pasture full of cows, grazing and snoozing in the mid day sun.
Ok I could/should go on but I'm so tired of this subject as each is going to stay stubbornly rooted in their beliefs and I need to clip anyways. In short I DON"T CARE if you wish to be a vegetarian but if your going to PREACH to me about the selfishness of people such as I, I don't know how you get too your horse shows as anything with tires or a paved road is obviously out. :bgrin I believe they call that accessory after the fact, at least by the definition below.
ACCESSORY AFTER THE FACT - Whoever, knowing that an offense has been committed, receives, relieves, comforts or assists the offender in order to hinder or prevent his apprehension, trial or punishment, is an accessory after the fact; one who knowing a felony to have been committed by another, receives, relieves, comforts, or assists the felon in order to hinder the felon's apprehension, trial, or punishment. U.S.C. 18
