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Someone said there is a video on this can someone please post the link. thank you!
Thanks now question I have is some of the videos I watch they waited for awhile before doing anything. when do you start to deliver the foal? Do you have to wait til the red bag is out some what? wait til you see feet?
NO NOT TMI!! Its great info and much needed as I never had a red bag and want all the info i can get.The first video that Matt linked to was not a Red Bag, unless I missed something. It was a normal delivery with the white sack and perhaps needed a little assistance.
The second post with a video showed the RED coming out and very quickly someone had scissors cutting that red fleshy thing beginning to protrude. THAT is the placenta coming out first. The white "bubble" immediately around the foal is normal and is what I saw in the one Matt showed.
When the RED shows and not the white it means IMMEDIATE action -- NO VET can help unless he or she is right there in the stall with you. Having scissors or a knife in the foaling kit is essential.......Pull some of the red "flesh" AWAY from the foal and cut. Then the foaling midwife needs to reach in and help pull the foal -- working in momentum with mare as she pushes.
The quicker the foal's head is free and the "midwife" can squeeze liquid from its nostrils the better.
Once the foal is out the placenta follows, so someone is going to have to break the ubilical as quickly as possible because it is a pathway for infection. Some tie it off and cut. Others use a more "natural" method by taking advantage of the thin spot along the cord. Either way gentle iodine or nolvasan has to immediately applied once the break is done.
Sorry......Probably TMI..... But I remember several years ago someone else posted info about how to deal with this. I read it and within a few days we experienced our first Red Bag. I remembered and we had a successful Red Bag Birth! It was awesome.
Yes, it was a RedBag, Maryann. She went in and broke the placenta before it presented at the entrance of the vagina, so you couldn't see it. She broke it and released the water contained within the placenta. That's why, when she's pulling the foal out it is still inside of the sac (that sac hasn't been broken yet). If you can break a "red bag" before you see it it's much better (ie. peek in). If your mare is pushing and pushing and you don't see a white bubble, have a look. If it's red, break it. You don't, actually, want to wait to see the red bag.The first video that Matt linked to was not a Red Bag, unless I missed something. It was a normal delivery with the white sack and perhaps needed a little assistance.
The second post with a video showed the RED coming out and very quickly someone had scissors cutting that red fleshy thing beginning to protrude. THAT is the placenta coming out first. The white "bubble" immediately around the foal is normal and is what I saw in the one Matt showed.
When the RED shows and not the white it means IMMEDIATE action -- NO VET can help unless he or she is right there in the stall with you. Having scissors or a knife in the foaling kit is essential.......Pull some of the red "flesh" AWAY from the foal and cut. Then the foaling midwife needs to reach in and help pull the foal -- working in momentum with mare as she pushes.
The quicker the foal's head is free and the "midwife" can squeeze liquid from its nostrils the better.
Once the foal is out the placenta follows, so someone is going to have to break the ubilical as quickly as possible because it is a pathway for infection. Some tie it off and cut. Others use a more "natural" method by taking advantage of the thin spot along the cord. Either way gentle iodine or nolvasan has to immediately applied once the break is done.
Sorry......Probably TMI..... But I remember several years ago someone else posted info about how to deal with this. I read it and within a few days we experienced our first Red Bag. I remembered and we had a successful Red Bag Birth! It was awesome.
If there's any question of what a "Red Bag" looks like when it begins to happen?
http://www.youtube.c...feature=related
When you see that red, you need to be proactive.
Matt's right on this one. The video he posted isn't as good for showing what a red bag looks like because the owner was really on top of things and corrected it before it was visible. It is a great video to show what you should do. The water should break before the foal is coming out. It has travelled a long way to get to that point, the placenta should have torn by then. If the mare is pushing that much and the water hasn't broken, look inside! As everyone has said time is of the essence.Yes, it was a RedBag, Maryann. She went in and broke the placenta before it presented at the entrance of the vagina, so you couldn't see it. She broke it and released the water contained within the placenta. That's why, when she's pulling the foal out it is still inside of the sac (that sac hasn't been broken yet). If you can break a "red bag" before you see it it's much better (ie. peek in). If your mare is pushing and pushing and you don't see a white bubble, have a look. If it's red, break it. You don't, actually, want to wait to see the red bag.
That vid of the poor mare pushing and her "bag" coming out is horrific. The poor mareHear how much effort she's putting in to trying to deliver the placenta that's around the fetus? Instead of just standing there filming, that person should have been assisting.
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