Perlino VS. Cremello

[love_casper]

~WOW~Thanks for the info, it is always great to know and understand more about color. Yes he was bred to a red pinto mare twice and the result was buckskin and smoky black. Bred to a bay mare we got smoky black (as far as we know since he has changed color every month since birth!!) and bred to a silver black mare with the greying gene we got buckskin...going grey. So all his foals have been black based so am I right to assume he is likely NOT cremello? 2 buckskin foals and 2 smoky blacks. I wonder too if he is homozygous black?

Oh my goodness he is BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!

The smokey black who's dam was red proves that the stallion is black based indeed. The buckskin out of the silver black mare proves that he IS a perlino. The black mare could not have had agouti so it must have come from him. The fact that he has had smokey black foals before proves that he is not homozygous for agouti.

So definitely perlino, and definitely hetero for agouti (Aa). As for black, well no way to tell other than testing. Even when bred to red based mares, it may just be the luck of the draw that he hands down a black gene, you'd have to test for sure. But we know he is at least Ee, if not than EE. If he ever produces a red based foal (regardless of the other parent) then you'll know he must carry red.

LOL it's kind of funny - if he doesn't produce a red foal, that really doesn't tell us anything. But if he does, that tells us he carries red. Good ol' fun with recessive genes!

 

[love_casper]

Whoops double post! Forum had an issue just as i posted it.

 

[eagles ring farm]

Here is a picture of our lab tested 08' Perlino Filly "Spice"

Her sire is a smutty buckskin who is homozygous for black

Dam is a Palomino snowcap Appoloosa

We never got a very good clip job on her before the weather started getting colder

she was born a non-sweater and with a hospital stay and a couple weeks of

medication she is now as normal as any other horse we have in the heat (thank God)

she is the first foal we have kept since 2005 (couldn't part with her)

we first only clipped some hair worring about the sun

then the hospital took off some more so ended up a pretty bad job , but here she is

 

[StarRidgeAcres]

Interesting thread!

This is Spirit. He's lab tested perlino. He's homogygous for both black and agouti. He produces buckskins 100% of the time when bred to sorrel/chestnut, bay and black. He produces only buckskin or perlino when bred to palomino, buckskin or smokey black. He produces only perlinos when bred to perlinos, cremellos or smokey creams. He does not carry a silver gene and therefore can only produce a silver when bred to a mare carrying the gene. He is registered as cremello.

Sorry, we don't own any professional pictures of him yet.

 

[Watcheye]

Yay I was waiting to see Spirit!

 

[midnight star stables]

My perlino gelding, Nitro: