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This does seem to be the case, sometimes... My young stallion, can really suck his up; but his can still be palpated in the right general location, just not hanging down. Come warmer weather, then he relaxed, and poof there they were.Sometimes young stallions will really suck up the testicles when it is cold outside.
Have you had the vet check him? Sometimes young stallions will really suck up the testicles when it is cold outside. If he does not have either by now, he probably will not get them. Sometimes you may have one that has not decended by now, but not both.
At the age of three AMHA requires all stallions to have a certificate signed by the vet stating that he has both testicles. This hopefully eliminates people breeding stallions with only one testical and continuing a problem, as it is hereditary. Since your stallion does not have either yet, this could be bred into his offspring (if he ever got one or both) and be an ongoing problem for you in the future.
I bought a breeding stallion too as a yearling and by 2 1/2 he had not gotten either testicle. My vet felt that by that time, he would not be getting them. I had a real fight with the breeder, as that is what she sold him for, breeding and showing. It ended up costing me $1000 to have him gelded as the testicles were up in his belly.
When someone is selling you a stallion for breeding/ showing purposes, it is an unemplyed guarantee that the stallion you are buying will have both of his testicles. (Otherwise you could not show or breed it) I would go back to the breeder. Any breeder not standing behind their horses, is NOT a good breeder and no one should ever purchase another horse from them. If ever taken to court, the breeder would surely loose.
Oh, this makes me really nervous and sad. I had thought I had finally found the stallion I was looking for.I just feel sick about it. I know, maybe I am just missing them. I am also worried that if they aren't dropped how do I deal with the breeder that I got him from. If she says she will take him back, I'm sad also cause I really like the little guy. If I keep him, I will have to have the expensive surgery. Excuse my pity party, I am just really disappointed.I'm sorry you're dealing with this, but nothing will make them drop if the ingunial ring is already closed. Your vet should be able to palpate this standing, or if the horse is nervous, sedate and lay him down. We had a colt that was intended to be gelded anyway that I was concerned was a crypt. We layed him down, immediately found the testicles, and castrated him immediately. If the ring is closed, I'm sorry but you shouldn't breed this particular horse. Like others, it's a trait I find HIGHLY undesireable in stallions and all crypts, regardless of pedigree or conformation are gelded at my house.
A good responsible breeder will make good on the sale. Unfortunatly not all breeders are good and responsible. IGood luck with yours. I hope it all works out well. I too will not use a horse for breeding that does not have their testicles by 2, but a breeder should replace your horse if he does not have them by 3.Have you had the vet check him? Sometimes young stallions will really suck up the testicles when it is cold outside. If he does not have either by now, he probably will not get them. Sometimes you may have one that has not decended by now, but not both.
At the age of three AMHA requires all stallions to have a certificate signed by the vet stating that he has both testicles. This hopefully eliminates people breeding stallions with only one testical and continuing a problem, as it is hereditary. Since your stallion does not have either yet, this could be bred into his offspring (if he ever got one or both) and be an ongoing problem for you in the future.
I bought a breeding stallion too as a yearling and by 2 1/2 he had not gotten either testicle. My vet felt that by that time, he would not be getting them. I had a real fight with the breeder, as that is what she sold him for, breeding and showing. It ended up costing me $1000 to have him gelded as the testicles were up in his belly.
When someone is selling you a stallion for breeding/ showing purposes, it is an unemplyed guarantee that the stallion you are buying will have both of his testicles. (Otherwise you could not show or breed it) I would go back to the breeder. Any breeder not standing behind their horses, is NOT a good breeder and no one should ever purchase another horse from them. If ever taken to court, the breeder would surely loose.
I did have the vet check him, but it was last summer. At that time he did not feel anything. Once spring hits if I still can't see anything I will definately take him back. So you are saying without a written guarentee the breeder should make good on the sale?
Actually, that is only required of show horses.At the age of three AMHA requires all stallions to have a certificate signed by the vet stating that he has both testicles.
I have been in contact with her. Within a day or two of getting him I noticed. She told me to "just give him time". Maybe all this worry is for nothing and I have missed it and he is just sucking them up. Once I have him checked this spring, I will once again tell them what the vet says. I just thought I had found the stallion I'd been looking for and waiting for and I guess I am not very patient about it. I have not felt of him just looked.The Inguinal Canal is closed by two WEEKS........
After that the testes cannot descend.
Arguing is a colt a Crypt or not is really semantics- if it was bought on a breeding sound contract (something I would NEVER give to less than an adult animal BTW) then if it is not fully descended and ready for breeding by the time it is a yearling (probably more realistically for most a tow year old) then it is not going to be a useful breeding animal as far as I am concerned.
If it is a late developer it really should not be used- to pass this on to it's offspring.
Minis are not "late developers" - this is a self fulfilling prophecy that we are perpetrating.
Minis are horses.
Horses should be sexually mature by the time they are Yearlings, ideally, Two year olds, certainly.
I am sorry you are going through this but, really, your concerns should be taken up with the seller in the first instance and, I have to say that without a contract they are under no obligation to do anything.
If I sold a colt as a weanling and then heard nothing at all until he was three I am not sure I would feel obligated to do anything either so the sooner you raise these concerns, even if you are told to wait and see, the better.
I believe the vets here at Texas A&M would disagree. The Inguinal ring is considered closed (or should be closed) at 24 months of age. And I'm not just throwing that out there to be arguementive. I called and checked with our Therio vet before posting.The Inguinal Canal is closed by two WEEKS........
After that the testes cannot descend.
Erica, very true! That does happen occasionally. The students here are taught to close the RING (not the incision) on any stallion they geld if the ring hasn't already closed itself. It just sets them up for a case of pertionitis if they're lucky and a disemboweled gelding if they aren't!Carin I agree too.....hard for me to believe the rings are closed by two weeks........I had a big horse gelded at two years (not by my personal vet that I use as he was out of town) other vet gelded this horse; later that night that horse had herinated and the intestine coming out his strotum hole; as his inginual ring was not closed when he was gelded.....
Back to the subject at hand, I did buy a colt from far way; he got off the trailer no testicles. I emailed and called the owners/breeders I got him from to document it. I showed him that whole year, ended up 3rd at Nationals.......waited till spring of his three year old year (by my decision) and nothing. Vet couldn't find anything as a two year old or three year old. But the people I bought him from were more than willing to take him back and replaced him with a filly I picked out.
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