outlawridge
Well-Known Member
Absolutely perfect name for a very pretty little surprise. Congratulations and glad to hear she is doing well.
Thank you again everybody.
Ooooh Dona what a can of worms you just opened. I had pretty much convinced myself that I'd seen buckskin babies born so light (in their dark markings). No, absolutely no silver on either side...BUT. Daddy Crunch is a gray. He's a very slow graying, gray, but he's definately a gray. Do you think the lightness of the dark areas could indicate the gray gene at work? She has no indications around her eyes or muzzle (what might appear light in the picture around her muzzle is really not, it's just the sun light.)
i have asked what color crunch was but no one seems to know?? I highly suspect he was black as his winter coat looked like a solid black horse until I clipped him. Crunch is 4 this year so he is going grey slowly. I love his tailhis pedigree says grey sire and dam. dam was michigans momma mia. But I do know a lot of shetland breeders put grey for grey and silver.
oops one more thing thats odd. Crunchs mane is still solid black. High (frans colt) has a mane that looks silver jsut like your filly. Why would they already have grey manes?? I cant help shaking the feeliing that the silver gene snuck in here somewhere
As I said in my PM to you Dona, you sure do know how to use that can opener. Yes that's another posibilty still. Let's just say that there would be room to question the parentage. Only DNA will tell for sure. Kay, if you're still willing to DNA crunch, I'd be willing to DNA Shocker. On my end, I'd really like to know.Well.....I went back & looked at all the photos again, too.
I do think that Crunch shows "typical" graying....lower tail graying up, dappled stage, etc. That being said...it's also possible that he carries Sabino as well. But, all of the Sabinos I've seen/had over the years don't keep the very dark manes & tails. They have uniformly scattered white hairs all thru them, gradually turning to a salt/pepper gray look. (they don't lighten on the body first & keep the manes & tails dark as some grays do)
After looking at the foal pictures again.....I truly believe she is carrying Silver.
I noticed that this mare was bought already bred. Does anyone know for sure if it's possible that another stallion is the Daddy????? I would like to know what colors the grandparents are!
Alrighty then... :lol: I'm going to go out on a limb & bet that if tested, Crunch is not the daddy to the filly in question. After looking at the filly's photos again.....Silver is definitely entering into the picture from somewhere. And neither Dam or Crunch "appears" to be carrying it. Please keep us posted when you get the DNA reports.... I'm very curious!As I said in my PM to you Dona, you sure do know how to use that can opener. Yes that's another posibilty still. Let's just say that there would be room to question the parentage. Only DNA will tell for sure. Kay, if you're still willing to DNA crunch, I'd be willing to DNA Shocker. On my end, I'd really like to know.Well.....I went back & looked at all the photos again, too.
I do think that Crunch shows "typical" graying....lower tail graying up, dappled stage, etc. That being said...it's also possible that he carries Sabino as well. But, all of the Sabinos I've seen/had over the years don't keep the very dark manes & tails. They have uniformly scattered white hairs all thru them, gradually turning to a salt/pepper gray look. (they don't lighten on the body first & keep the manes & tails dark as some grays do)
After looking at the foal pictures again.....I truly believe she is carrying Silver.
I noticed that this mare was bought already bred. Does anyone know for sure if it's possible that another stallion is the Daddy????? I would like to know what colors the grandparents are!
There are enough similiarities in the two foals born (both mares purchased from the same place at the same time -- both mine and Fran's, and the stallion was purchased by Kay and Fran then as well from the same person) to assume they both have the same father--I know that's a rough assumption, but going with that, it seemed reasonable to think that the seller's assertation that Crunch was indeed the sire seemed plausible.
I'm still not saying it's not. But there is room for question on it.
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