I love donkeys. They'll tell you in no uncertain terms that you're not the horse person you think you are! Very humbling. At least my 3 have been for me. But I know they've made me a better, more creative trainer in the end. Yes, they can take longer to train into a behavior or purpose, but once they have it, they're usually bang on to do it regardless of when or where. I've got friends who train mules for extreme cowboy competition! I've learned SO MUCH from them. The biggest take away is that sometimes you have to "speak" more LOUDLY to the donkey/mule. Make things more clear. This was difficult for me at first because the clarity Phillippe needed from me was in the form of rein direction in the bridle. He would bully me, pull me around with the bit. I think myself an effective and fair trainer and by the look of my horses, that is a true statement - normally. But Phillippe needed me to make things more clear about whoa means whoa, and if you're cooperative with me, I can be very gentle with you. He needed me to give him more clear boundaries. That's where a twisted liverpool came in... And 95% of the time, I can be light and gentle with it. But 5% of the time, I need to be firm and even strong. And I'm glad that I have the tool for that 5% of time when I need it. I can't imagine going back to struggling with a mullen mouth half cheek. I do hope that I can go back to using it one day, but not until we're past the training side of things.