I don't have any really new pics because it is foggy and rainy. So his outer hair is wet most of the time. He was born with a white (appy) patch (about the size of my hand) on each side of his bum. I know he is an appy. His grand sire on his sires side is a silver bay appy.His sire is an appy. I figured he was just another silver dapple when he was born. However, his mane has darkened and he is now a light reddish brown. I will try to get more pics if we get a break in this wet weather. Oh, and he is the one that hated people when he was born. He is now pushing in for his share of loves.