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Perry's handlers are proclaiming how much job growth there was in Texas under his governorship, but what they don't tell us is that most of those jobs are government jobs and have to do with the defense industry. These were not jobs largely created in the private sector.

Also, if you are happy to see Perry throw his hat in the ring, please read this "warning" about him from the Republican Liberty Caucus, which says in part "The file on Perry’s abuses of power, insider deals with cronies and tax and spend policies is thick, but for a start here are what Texas RLC members voted as the top five Perry scandals which GOP primary voters need to know more about:" http://www.rlc.org/2011/08/12/texas-rlc-sends-out-warning-on-rick-perry/
 
Hmmm....seems he shares some similarities with Republican Ohio Governor John Kasich.

This is from the article on Perry. RLC of Texas Chairman Judson Vandiver asks, “Let’s hope Republicans outside Texas see through all the hype. Let’s all say to to Perry what he said to a Texas state trooper when he tried to bully her after she pulled him over for speeding

: ‘Why don’t you just let us get on down the road?’”
And this from our esteemed governor here in Ohio:

John Kasich calls police officer "idiot."

Barbara
 
Really liking him so far and I loved his announcement yesterday (every single word of it).

I've seen footage over the year of Perry traveling for meetings re: bringing jobs to his state. He said something to the effect that is one of the biggest parts of his job. Love it.

Not in favor of bigger government BUT I am in favor of not cutting defense and even possibly increasing spending there -- not to really continue to spend it as we have been necessarily and to spend it SMART -- but to keep it a BIG part of our budget. Without a strong National defense, we may be "relieved" of an economy and jobs market with which to be concerned.

Don't know enough to say he's got my vote, but I am personally very happy to see him as an official option AND I am happy that Michelle Bachmann won the straw poll yesterday.

It's been an exciting few days to be a Conservative voter.
 
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Here is the full transcript of Perry's announcment:

Howdy. Thank you, Erick (Erickson, editor of RedState). It is great to be at RedState. And I'll tell you what, it's even better to be governor of the largest red state in America.




It's sure good to be back in the Palmetto State, in South Carolina. I enjoy coming to places where people elect folks like Nikki Haley, true conservatives. And also where they love the greatest fighting force on the face of the earth…the United States Military.




And I want to take a moment and ask you to just take a silence, think about those young Navy SEALs and the other special operators who gave it all in the service of their country. Just take a moment to say Thank you, Lord, that we have those kind of selfless, sacrificial men and women.




Their sacrifice was immeasurable, their dedication profound, and we will never, ever forget them.




I stand before you today as the governor of Texas. But I also stand before you the son of two



tenant farmers, Ray Perry, who came home after 35 bombing missions over Europe to work his little corner of land out there, and Amelia who made sure my sister Milla and I had everything that we needed, including hand-sewing my clothes until I went off to college.




I am also the product of a place called Paint Creek. Doesn't have a zip code. It's too small to be called a town along the rolling plains of Texas. We grew dryland cotton and wheat, and when I wasn't farming or attending Paint Creek Rural School, I was generally over at Troop 48 working on my Eagle Scout award.




Around the age of 8, I was blessed – didn't realize it, but I was blessed to meet my future wife, Anita Thigpen, at a piano recital. We had our first date eight years later. And she finally agreed to marry me 16 years after that. Nobody says I am not persistent.

 

There is no greater way to live life than with someone you love, and my first love is with us today, my lovely wife Anita. We're also blessed to have two incredible children, Griffin and Sydney, and they are also with us today, and our wonderful daughter-in-law Meredith. I'd just like to introduce those two. Thank you.




What I learned growing up on the farm was a way of life that was centered on hard work, and on faith and on thrift. Those values have stuck with me my whole life. But it wasn't until I graduated from Texas A&M University and joined the United States Air Force, flying C-130's all around the globe, that I truly appreciated the blessings of freedom.




To paraphrase Abraham Lincoln and Ronald Reagan, I realized that the United States of America really is the last great hope of mankind. What I saw was systems of government that elevated rulers at the expense of the people. Socialist systems cloaked maybe in good intentions but were delivering misery and stagnation. And I learned that not everyone values life like we do in America, or the rights that are endowed to every human being by a loving God.




You see, as Americans we're not defined by class, and we will never be told our place. What makes our nation exceptional is that anyone, from any background, can climb the highest of heights. As Americans, we don't see the role of government as guaranteeing outcomes, but allowing free men and women to flourish based on their own vision, their hard work and their personal responsibility. And as Americans, we realize there is no taxpayer money that wasn't first earned by the sweat and toil of one of our citizens.




That's why we reject this President's unbridled fixation on taking more money out of the wallets and pocketbooks of American families and employers and giving it to a central government.




"Spreading the wealth" punishes success while setting America on course to greater dependency on government. Washington's insatiable desire to spend our children's inheritance on failed "stimulus" plans and other misguided economic theories have given us record debt and left us with far too many unemployed.




But of course, now we're told we are in recovery. Yeah.




But this sure doesn't feel like a recovery to more than nine percent of Americans out there who are unemployed, or the sixteen percent of African Americans and 11 percent of Hispanics in the same position, or the millions more who can only find part-time work, or those who have stopped even looking for a job.




One in six work-eligible Americans cannot find a full-time job. That is not a recovery. That is an economic disaster.




If you think about it, for those Americans who do have full-time jobs, they aren't experiencing economic recovery with the rising fuel costs and the food prices that are going up. Recovery is a meaningless word if the bank has foreclosed on your home, if you are under water on your mortgage, or if you are up to the max on your credit card debt. Those Americans know that this President and his big-spending, big-government policies have prolonged our national misery, not alleviated it.



And what do we say to our children? Y'all figure it out? Don't worry, Washington's created 17 debt and entitlement commissions in 30 years, but the fact of the matter is they just didn't have the courage to make the decisions to allow you to have the future that you actually deserve? That Washington wouldn't even make modest entitlement program reforms in this last debate? And the President even refused to lay out a plan, for fear of the next election? How can the wealthiest nation in the history of civilization fail so miserably to pay its bills? How does that happen?




Well, Mr. President, let us tell you something: you can't win the future by selling America off to foreign creditors.




We cannot afford four more years of this rudderless leadership. Last week, that leadership failed, and the tax and spend and borrow agenda of this President led to the first ever downgrade of the credit rating of the United States of America.




In reality though, this is just the most recent downgrade. The fact is for nearly three years President Obama has been downgrading American jobs. He's been downgrading our standing in the world. He's been downgrading our financial stability. He's been downgrading our confidence, and downgrading the hope for a better future for our children. That's a fact.




His policies are not only a threat to this economy, so are his appointees – a threat. You see he stacked the National Labor Relations Board with anti-business cronies who want to dictate to a private company, Boeing, where they can build a plant. No president, no president should kill jobs in South Carolina, or any other state for that matter, simply because they choose to go to a right-to-work state.




You see, when the Obama Administration is not stifling economic growth with over-regulation, they are achieving the same through their reckless spending. Debt is not only a threat to our economy, but also to our security.




America's standing in the world is in peril, not only because of disastrous economic policies, but from the incoherent muddle that they call foreign policy. Our president has insulted our friends and he's encouraged our enemies, thumbing his nose at traditional allies like Israel. He seeks to dictate new borders for the Middle East and the oldest democracy there, Israel, while he is anabject failure in his constitutional duty to protect our borders in the United States.




His foreign policy seems to be based on alienating our traditional allies, while basing our domestic agenda on importing those failed Western European social values. We don't need a president who apologizes for America. We need a president who protects and projects those values.



Look, it's pretty simple: we're going to stand with those who stand with us, and we will vigorously defend our interests. And those who threaten our interests, harm our citizens – we will simply not be scolding you, we will defeat you.




Our nation cannot and it must not endure four more years of aimless foreign policy. We cannot and must not endure four more years of rising unemployment, rising taxes, rising debt, rising energy dependence on nations that intend us harm.

 

It is time to get America working again. To get citizens – to get our citizens working in good jobs and getting the government to working for the people again.




Page one of any economic plan to get America working is to give a pink slip to the current resident in the White House.




Listen, we just got to get back to the basic truths of economic success. As Governor, I've had to deal with the consequences of this national recession. In 2003, and again this year, my state faced billions of dollars in budget shortfalls. But we worked hard, we made tough decisions, we balanced our budget. Not by raising taxes, but by setting priorities and cutting government spending. It can and it must be done in Washington, DC.




Dr. Schwertner (State Representative, R-Williamson County, TX), we have led Texas based on some just really pretty simple guiding principles. One is don't spend all of the money. Two is keeping the taxes low and under control. Three is you have your regulatory climate fair and predictable. Four is reform the legal system so frivolous lawsuits don't paralyze employers that are trying to create jobs.




Over the years, we have followed this recipe to produce the strongest economy in the nation. Since June of 2009, Texas is responsible for more than 40 percent of all of the new jobs created in America.




Now think about that. We're home to less than 10 percent of the population in America, but forty percent of all the new jobs were created in that state.




I've cut taxes. I have delivered historic property tax reductions. I was the first governor since World War II to cut general revenue spending in our state budget. We passed lawsuit reform, including just this last session a "loser pays" law to stop the frivolous lawsuits that were happening.




And I know I've talked a lot about Texas here in the last little bit. I'm a Texan and proud of it. But first, and foremost, I'm an incredibly proud American.




And I know something: America is not broken. Washington, D.C., is broken!




We need balanced budgets. We need lower taxes. We need less regulation. And we need civil justice reform – those same four principles. Our country's most urgent need is to revitalize our economy, stop the generational theft that is going on with this record debt.




I come to South Carolina because I will not sit back and accept the path that America is on. Because a great country requires a better direction. Because a renewed nation needs a new president.




It is time to get America working again. And that's why, with the support of my family, and an unwavering belief in the goodness of America, I declare to you today as a candidate for President of the United States.

 

It's time for America to believe again. It's time to believe that the promise of our future is far greater than even our best days behind us. It's time to believe again in the potential of private enterprise, set free from the shackles of overbearing federal government. And it's time to truly restore our standing in the world, and renew our faith in freedom as the best hope for peace in this world that's beset with strife.




The change we seek will never emanate out of Washington, D.C. It will come from the windswept prairies of Middle America, the farms and factories across this great land, from the hearts and minds of the goodhearted Americans who will accept not a future that is less than our past, patriots – patriots who will not be consigned to a fate of less freedom in exchange for more government.




We do not have to accept our current circumstances. We will change them. We are Americans.




That's what we do. We roll up our sleeves. We go to work. We fix things. We stand up and proudly proclaim that Washington is not our caretaker and we reject the state that, in Margaret Thatcher's words, she said a state that takes too much from us in order to do too much for us. We will not stand for that any longer.




We're dismayed at the injustice that nearly half of all Americans don't even pay any income tax.




And you know the liberals out there are saying that we need to pay more. We are indignant about leaders who do not listen and spend money faster than they can print it.




In America, the people are not subjects of government. The government is subject to the people. And it is up to us, to this present generation of Americans, to take a stand for freedom, to send a message to Washington that we're taking our future back from the grips of central planners who would control our healthcare, who would spend our treasure, who downgrade our future and micro-manage our lives.




It is time to limit and simplify the taxes in this country. We have to quit spending money we don't have. We need to get our fiscal house in order and restore our good credit. And we will repeal this President's misguided, one-size-fits-all government healthcare plan immediately.




We'll create jobs. We'll get America working again. We'll create jobs and we'll build wealth, we'll truly educate and innovate in science, and in technology, engineering and math. We'll create the jobs and the progress needed to get America working again.




And I'll promise you this: I'll work every day to make Washington, D.C. as inconsequential in your life as I can. And at the same time, we'll be freeing our families and small businesses and states from the burdensome and costly federal government so those groups can create, innovate and succeed.




I believe in America. I believe in Her purpose and Her promise. I believe Her best days have not yet been lived. I believe Her greatest deeds are reserved for the generations to come. With the help and the courage of the American people, we will get our country working again.







God bless you and God bless the United States of America.

 

 

 

 
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And the video
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSCiWQRtq4o
 
Being in Texas, I see local news that isnt national, so its not odd that 'they' dont see what we do here. Perry 'balanced' the texas budget using stimulus money. He also used creative bookeeping, putting this years bills on the to pay list in a few years, so that this year shows balanced. The 'created' jobs are also in the gas/oil industry. Its not like he went out and courted companies to come here.

Most importantly, dont forget this is the 'Governor' who wanted to secede from the U.S. That in itself isnt something I would want in a President.
 
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Believe it or not, I'm actually a Texan (by birth)... I'm pretty near ready to order my Rick Perry bumper stickers
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Believe it or not, I'm actually a Texan (by birth)... I'm pretty near ready to order my Rick Perry bumper stickers
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Jill, you seem like a smart and savvy lady, so I guess I'm just a bit stunned that you are all gaga over Perry. What is it, exactly, that you like about him? After hearing from people who actually lived in Texas during his reign as governor, and reading about the more negative sides of his political career, I find him to have a somewhat tarnished reputation and see him as a very slick politician, who is making promises that are all glittering generalities. Same thing Obama did in '08.
 
I've heard so many positive things about Perry and support for him from other people living in Texas (just not through LB). I do really like him and have had him as a favorite hoping he'd run for about 8mos now. That said, though, we don't vote for over a year, so there's a lot of time to learn more and I am not going to miss any debates and am a news junky so will be reading, watching and listening. H, my mom, dad and I are all fans at this point. But eyes and ears remain open. My sister and her husband... urgh. Die-hard Obama supporters
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A cross I must bear
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What I want is a team of two candidates with business and job smarts and who are serious about National Defense. Handsome / Pretty / Likable / Good Public Speakers, too, because while that doesn't matter to me, it does matter in regards to elect-ability. This is small, small potatoes, but I loved how Perry really winged it on that speech. Didn't see him looking at his notes really and no teleprompters. That just felt good and again, he said what I want to hear -- start to finish.

Of the other "top tier", I do like Bachmann a lot. Even when the liberal media slams her, once I hear what she said (even in their words sometimes, more often the full quote or the background information), I almost always agree with her.

I love Herman Cain. LOVE him, but was upset with his response to a question regarding Israel / right of return awhile back. While he quickly "learned up" and had a reply that was acceptable w/in a day, I don't think he understood the question the first time it was asked. I do not think Cain is viable at this point, but I personally like him.

Gingrich... Urgh. I don't think I'll vote for him and I don't think he'll get the nomination, however, each debate I've sat down pegging him as my least favorite but as the debate unfolds, I find that he has some of the best answers. So mixed feelings about him. I feel he debates very well, though most coverage after the fact doesn't indicate so. He's been the favorite between my family and friends for the debates (but none of us see ourselves voting for him). Just an odd combination from him and the feelings he's generated for "us".

Romney. Please, no.

Paul -- definitely open to him and support almost all of what I've heard him say as well.

Sarah Palin... I adore her and admire her. I hope she will not run, though. I think this woman has done so much good by firing up the conservative base and I feel she can do a lot of good for several more years doing just exactly what she's been doing. I think she'd made a good president, but I think she can continue to do a lot of good for our Nation doing what she does right now and maybe one day also serve as President. Though so many do not like her, I see her as a successful person and woman in every single way one can be -- spiritually, personally, professionally and politically.

The way I see it, we have a field of exciting and talented people. More than who's been debating, too, though these are some real "stars". I just hope the ticket is an exciting combination AND that there is room for most of this top tier to be involved with the Administration that takes office in 2013.

And, lastly, regarding Obama's promises and glitter... I just NEVER wanted what he was promising. I thought at the time Hope & Change was a sugar coated spin on socialism and I don't think our Nation needs to emulate a European model which I always thought Obama advocated. So while I thought Obama was "charming" personally (yet very phony), I never ever EVER wanted what he promised and it upset me that so many Americans would fall for a vision that at its very heart was so UN-American. I also thought Obama lacked the ability to lead. I think I was exactly right about all the concerns I had about Obama, and unfortunately so. The qualities / ideas / goals I thought I saw and think many of us now see in Obama include: unqualified, socialist ideals, a desire to transform our Nation into something it isn't supposed to be, arogant, anti-business and anti-American. I don't see a comparison between Obama's words and Perry's.
 
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I'm a Texan and support Perry. And that's even after he squished any hope of me getting a raise for the last 2 years being a state employee. Will I vote for him? Yes, if he's the Republican nominee. I'll vote for who ever is the Republican nominee at this point. Why? Because when I look back to the Bush era...things were good. People had jobs, even after 9/11, and we had a President I could believe in. One that stood up for this country in its greatest need at the time and didn't take any BS from ANYONE. What we have now is a slimeball. In his actions, he's turned his back on America yet speaks as if he has our best interest at heart. I'm worse off now than I was 3 years ago. You are worse off now than you were 3 years ago. Everyone is worse off now. He has done nothing but weaken this country and its time we put a true warrior back into the White House and get rid of this manure spreader. He was elected solely based on his race and that is just the God's honest truth. People who never voted before in their life time came out in droves to vote in the first African American president. While it was historical, and I am glad to have witnessed it, the greater good was very short lived. I'd vote for a purple man or woman if they can just get this country back on track and make it very clear to our enemies that we will not stand down.
 
I've heard so many positive things about Perry and support for him from other people living in Texas (just not through LB). I do really like him and have had him as a favorite hoping he'd run for about 8mos now. That said, though, we don't vote for over a year, so there's a lot of time to learn more and I am not going to miss any debates and am a news junky so will be reading, watching and listening. H, my mom, dad and I are all fans at this point. But eyes and ears remain open. My sister and her husband... urgh. Die-hard Obama supporters
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What I want is a team of two candidates with business and job smarts and who are serious about National Defense. Handsome / Pretty / Likable / Good Public Speakers, too, because while that doesn't matter to me, it does matter in regards to elect-ability. This is small, small potatoes, but I loved how Perry really winged it on that speech. Didn't see him looking at his notes really and no teleprompters. That just felt good and again, he said what I want to hear -- start to finish.

Of the other "top tier", I do like Bachmann a lot. Even when the liberal media slams her, once I hear what she said (even in their words sometimes, more often the full quote or the background information), I almost always agree with her.

I love Herman Cain. LOVE him, but was upset with his response to a question regarding Israel / right of return awhile back. While he quickly "learned up" and had a reply that was acceptable w/in a day, I don't think he understood the question the first time it was asked. I do not think Cain is viable at this point, but I personally like him.

Gingrich... Urgh. I don't think I'll vote for him and I don't think he'll get the nomination, however, each debate I've sat down pegging him as my least favorite but as the debate unfolds, I find that he has some of the best answers. So mixed feelings about him. I feel he debates very well, though most coverage after the fact doesn't indicate so. He's been the favorite between my family and friends for the debates (but none of us see ourselves voting for him). Just an odd combination from him and the feelings he's generated for "us".

Romney. Please, no.

Paul -- definitely open to him and support almost all of what I've heard him say as well.

Sarah Palin... I adore her and admire her. I hope she will not run, though. I think this woman has done so much good by firing up the conservative base and I feel she can do a lot of good for several more years doing just exactly what she's been doing. I think she'd made a good president, but I think she can continue to do a lot of good for our Nation doing what she does right now and maybe one day also serve as President. Though so many do not like her, I see her as a successful person and woman in every single way one can be -- spiritually, personally, professionally and politically.

The way I see it, we have a field of exciting and talented people. More than who's been debating, too, though these are some real "stars". I just hope the ticket is an exciting combination AND that there is room for most of this top tier to be involved with the Administration that takes office in 2013.

And, lastly, regarding Obama's promises and glitter... I just NEVER wanted what he was promising. I thought at the time Hope & Change was a sugar coated spin on socialism and I don't think our Nation needs to emulate a European model which I always thought Obama advocated. So while I thought Obama was "charming" personally (yet very phony), I never ever EVER wanted what he promised and it upset me that so many Americans would fall for a vision that at its very heart was so UN-American. I also thought Obama lacked the ability to lead. I think I was exactly right about all the concerns I had about Obama, and unfortunately so. The qualities / ideas / goals I thought I saw and think many of us now see in Obama include: unqualified, socialist ideals, a desire to transform our Nation into something it isn't supposed to be, arogant, anti-business and anti-American. I don't see a comparison between Obama's words and Perry's.
Jill, I really had to laugh, as my sister is married to my husband's brother, and they, too, are so liberal they wear bleeding hearts on their sleeves! And my husband and I are polar opposites from them. My brother is also totally liberal. Just not a comfortable family situation, because politics always comes up!

I agree with you about what we need in a candidate, and unfortunately, looks DO count, and that's one thing Ron Paul has going against him. Plus his age. But I like his ideas and he is so straightforward.

If Perry gets the nomination, then I will vote for him, because OBAMA MUST GO! I have never in my life been so disappointed and angry with a president as I am with him!

I liked Bachman before the debates, but I'm cooling towards her. Her main platform seems to be "Get Obama out of office and repeal Obama care." I haven't really heard anything concrete from her. The only thing I find positive about her is that if by some miracle she gets the nomination, then she would appeal to some women voters who may have voted democrat in the last election, because it made their little liberal hearts to feel so good in voting for a black man. Then their little liberal hearts can feel good voting for a woman.

I sort of feel that Herman Cain SHOULD be on the ticket, in order to get the African American votes. I just heard on the news that the Latino community is very upset with Obama and his immigration policy. They say he's done nothing to stop the arrest and deportation of illegals. Well, HELLO! They are flippin' ILLEGALS, for crying out loud. They SHOULD be deported.

I don't like Gingrich at all as he does not seem personable, but I agree that he says the right things. Time will tell, though. I think he would alienate too many independents and hurt the conservatives' chances in the election.

I like Sarah Palin a lot. I read her book and understood why she resigned from her job as Governor in Alaska. It was mainly due to huge legal fees from frivolous lawsuits, and she simply needed a higher income to pay for them. And a few other reasons, of course, but that was the main one. Sarah simply isn't the stupid bimbo the liberal press makes her out to be. She could never win the presidency, so I hope she doesn't run. But I really would like to see the conservative winner put her into a governmental job of some sort... Sect. of the Treasury, or something to do with finance, because I think she's got a lot going in that field.

Romney.. if he couldn't even win the nomination last time around, how do the conservatives think he could ever win the entire election?
 
Sandy, you have me smiling and nodding in agreement with so much of what you said above!!!
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I read this article this morning and thought it was really clear and well written, and ties in obviously with the topic at hand. The article addresses a lot of the negative spin that has been put forth about Rick Perry's record (and very satisfactorily from my perspective). Well worth a read for those interested in the GOP candidates:

The Texas Miracle Is No Myth: It's Worth Looking Under The Surface <<< link to the article

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This - along with his proposed changes to the Constitution - and the fact that he seems to think as President he can do so - are what concern me most about Perry (and Bachman).

How much does it worry you if both Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry have ties to Dominionism?

FROM CNN's Jack Cafferty:

Forget about the separation of church and state... there's reason to believe that religion might have a whole new meaning for the next occupant of the White House.

The Daily Beast reports that two of the Republican candidates for president - Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry - are "deeply associated" with a theocratic strain of Christian fundamentalism that's called Dominionism.

For those of you who haven't heard of it before, and I was one who hadn't - stand by cause this is "out there."

The Daily Beast writes how Dominionists believe that Christians have a God-given right to rule all earthly institutions. Dominionism finds its roots in a small fringe sect called Christian Reconstructionism. People who advocate replacing U.S. law with the laws of the Old Testament, including the death penalty for homosexuality and abortion. swell.

The Daily Beast reports that both Bachmann and Perry appear to have ties to groups that support Dominionism.

Bachmann appeared in a documentary for one of these groups called "truth in action ministries." Also, she often praises or cites different religious leaders connected to such beliefs.

As for Perry, there's a group called "the new apostolic reformation" that sees him as their ticket to power. They talk about "taking dominion over American society" and hope that Perry can claim the so-called "mountain" of government. This group was also involved in Perry's prayer vigil in Houston a couple of weeks ago.
 
This - along with his proposed changes to the Constitution - and the fact that he seems to think as President he can do so - are what concern me most about Perry (and Bachman).

How much does it worry you if both Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry have ties to Dominionism?

FROM CNN's Jack Cafferty:

Forget about the separation of church and state... there's reason to believe that religion might have a whole new meaning for the next occupant of the White House.

The Daily Beast reports that two of the Republican candidates for president - Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry - are "deeply associated" with a theocratic strain of Christian fundamentalism that's called Dominionism.

For those of you who haven't heard of it before, and I was one who hadn't - stand by cause this is "out there."

The Daily Beast writes how Dominionists believe that Christians have a God-given right to rule all earthly institutions. Dominionism finds its roots in a small fringe sect called Christian Reconstructionism. People who advocate replacing U.S. law with the laws of the Old Testament, including the death penalty for homosexuality and abortion. swell.

The Daily Beast reports that both Bachmann and Perry appear to have ties to groups that support Dominionism.

Bachmann appeared in a documentary for one of these groups called "truth in action ministries." Also, she often praises or cites different religious leaders connected to such beliefs.

As for Perry, there's a group called "the new apostolic reformation" that sees him as their ticket to power. They talk about "taking dominion over American society" and hope that Perry can claim the so-called "mountain" of government. This group was also involved in Perry's prayer vigil in Houston a couple of weeks ago.
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BRILLIANT POST. If people don't wake up and smell the roses we're going to be more backwards than the middle east. My god this is the year 2011 - and people are still sticking their fingers in their ears and yelling "not true, not true". This SO scares me about these two and is THE number one reason I'd never vote for either.

Of course we may be okay because Michelle is a good submissive woman
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and will have to have her husbands permission to rule the free world - maybe he'll say "He11 no".
 
Of course we may be okay because Michelle is a good submissive woman
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and will have to have her husbands permission to rule the free world - maybe he'll say "He11 no".
Spit my coffee out laughing over that one!!! Too funny!
 
OH, yeah. I've noticed what a quiet little mouse Michelle Bachmann is
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It's so hard to even know where she stands on these political issues...
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Nothing like the liberal spin of the media
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OH, yeah. I've noticed what a quiet little mouse Michelle Bachmann is
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It's so hard to even know where she stands on these political issues...
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Nothing like the liberal spin of the media
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They're not political issues - they're religious ones - unfortunately with Bachman and Perry they may become political
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Not for me, they won't. I have no problem with political leaders having deep religious beliefs.
 
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