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  1. Well, I certainly hope that AMHA will step up to the plate and do the same thing(put the dwarf testing results on the papers(and amy fee SHOULD be small, IMO!)
  2. This is long-anticipated, WONDERFUL news!May I add my thanks to John Eberth...and will say, if I were still breeding, I'd be at the front of the line to have all of my breeding stock tested; hope all dedicated breeders will!
  3. Kudos to the OP for her powers of observation, and for starting this discussion, IMO one of the best so far on this subject on LB(and I 've been here since early '99.) I have always felt as Lewella expresses...that there is likely not NEARLY as 'high' a % of dwarf carriers in the mini horse population as many think. I am pleased to believe that there are a good number of us who indeed HAVE voluntarily self-culled-removing both parents as completely as we are able from the breeding population as soon as they produced a dwarf.( In retrospect, I probably should have gelded my stallion that sired a dwarf, but at the time, money was short,I had NO need of a small(29"+) halter gelding, albeit a very nice one- and I did the best I could under the circumstances. To follow Parmela's admirable example and be totally 'up-front'...the sire of the dwarf bred and born here was a horse registered as "Sugar Creek Tap Dance" AMHA; I did not buy him from the farm whose prefix he carried, but from another well-known W. Coast farm who'd bought him to sell(I presume that, anyway), at about a year and a half, with a written 'guarantee about his still undescended second testicle(I would not do that again, but that is a separate issue.)the dam was registered AMHA as "Jess Poppis Nite Sprite", also bred by me. Her dam and sire were half-siblings, both owned by me when bred, and both sired by "SLJ Mighty Mouse", AMHA, who was Dell Tera breeding top and bottom. I would not do that kind of breeding again, BTW. Good news is that the stallion only sired two foals here...the dwarf and a pretty pinto filly, whom I also gave away to the boys/girls ranch, along w/ the mare who produced the dwarf, w/ full disclosure. The possibility of another dwarf from either parent HERE ended, totally, and I have only hoped that none of the relatively few offspring of the dwarf's maternal grandsire were bred, or at least, not 'heavily'; the maternal granddam only produced one other filly, an 'oversize' who has been a tremenously talented driving mare, ADS-style, all her working life, and was NEVER bred . Male offspring were all gelded, never bred. BTW... These are FACTS; I was present, handled the breeding myself, was present at all births. Margo
  4. I am one who in my years as a breeder, had one severe dwarf born.She was a very endearing little critter, but I wish I'd had her euthanized at birth, because it was a TERRIBLE experience when we HAD to do it by the time she was a few months old. She was extremely 'windswept', could barely get around,and got worse and worse in that respect, along w/ having serious breathing issues. The dam was the result of breeding half-brother to half-sister--same sire, which strongly suggests that THEIR dwarf gene came from their sire; she was not a gorgeous mare, but did appear correct,w/ straight legs, though w/a somewhat short neck and only slightly 'domed' forehead. (This was around 20 years ago, and I was still 'early into' breeding minis and knowledge of the issues that are fairly common within their ranks; I also think I was somewhat 'barn-blind'.) The sire had 'good' bloodlines, was a handsome little horse w/ NO hint of dwarfiness, but WAS one who had only one descended testicle until he was 34 months of age. I would not accept that again, EVER, as I now believe that is genetic and should not be 'passed forward'. I NEVER bred either one again. I GAVE both of them to a boys/girls' charitable 'ranch', who used miniatures in their youth programs, but weren't breeders, with full disclosure that they'd produced a dwarf and should not ever be bred again; in fact, I also GAVE them a filly by the same stallion, with the same caveat.Without a test, I personally thought this the best I could do to ensure that I would not be responsible for 'sending forward' the dwarf gene, even in non-symptomatic 'carriers'. I look forward to a test, and IF I were still breeding, would certainly have EVERY breedable animal tested. I have mixed feelings about breeding carriers to non-carriers, simply because you could still produce more carriers, but I do understand the reasoning behind thoughtful consideration of choosing to breed 'high quality' carriers ONLY to comparable quality tested NON-carriers. For myself, I expect I'd opt to ONLY breed non- to non. JMHO. Margo
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    Spiral ham dinner

    Here's a recipe my mother used to make(not sure where she got it?)...but it is GREAT w/ ham, and IMO, an excellent 'substitute' for potato side dishes! Its 'roots' are both Southern and Southwestern(sort of like my own!!) "GRITS" 1 C. instant grits, cooked 1 C. extra sharp cheese, grated 1/2 stick margarine @ 1 t. Tabasco 2 well-beaten eggs 1 4 oz. can chopped green chiles salt and pepper to taste Combine and bake, uncovered, at 350 degrees for one hour. Above recipe exactly as written by my mom. I always make this as a 'one-pot' dish by using a large, deep(2 1/2 qt.) Corningware cassarole that I've had for 45 years! Cook the grits in it to begin with(if you've never cooked grits, be aware that they must be watched, stirred constantly, not overcooked. I use Quaker "Quick Grits"...then add and mix in each add'n. ingredient, pop it in the oven. Easily enough for 8-10;leftovers reheat beautifully, almost tastes 'even better' as such! Margo, in cold, SNOWY southern Santa Fe County, NM
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    What Are Your Favorite Restaurants?

    Local/area: I live near a 'wide spot in the road' town, but there is a little restaurant, The Grill, that is pretty darn good! Fast food: A Sonic just opened here...sweet, as I do like Sonic! McDonalds...I caught a bit on the 'Today' show outlining some more healthy choices at fast food places, and their 'Asian Salad' was mentioned, so I tried it, and it IS good, and much more healthy than a burger! I even went and bought some of the 'Newman's Own' low-fat sesame-ginger dressing they provide w/ this salad, and use it at home to build a similar salad as a meal...yum! Albuquerque local: Annie's Soup Kitchen, Sadies(scrumptious REAL Mexican food; started life in a bowling alley in the North Valley!) Chain/sit-down: Black Angus, Red Lobster, Outback, Texas Roadhouse, most recently, Mimi's Cafe(I *think?* it's a chain.) I prefer a quieter atmosphere at a sit-down(Us old folks mostly do, I suspect! Margo
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    Cooking Turkey in Electric Oven

    I always did what MA does, and produced a number of nicely-browned, juicy turkeys! I've about always cooked w/ electric; current house(of 30+ years)is all-electric; just how it worked out. Anyway...I always just rinsed, patted dry, basted w/ butter, put in deep roasting pan on a removable 'grid' so that the turkey didn't rest in its juices. Tented turkey toward the end, if it started to become TOO brown. I did baste(w/ butter/margarine) a time or two, not much, during cooking. Used the 'pinch the leg' or 'stab w/ a fork' tests(before pop-up timers) to determine doneness! I NEVER stuff a turkey; prefer to cook stuffing separately...and think it makes cooking the turk itself simpler...JMO. Oh, and I'm at high altitude; there's adjustments in time, temperature necessary, but they become sort of second nature after awhile. Margo
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    Warning @ Banamine injections(IM)

    That's a real object lesson; thanks for sharing!Poor horse; he has surely been through an ordeal; hoping he continues to survive AND returns to his former condition!I presume the slits in the neck were made due to the extreme swelling, to keep the skin from tearing? I've seen such w/ snake bites in people.... For many years, I gave Banamine IM, and never had any problems, BUT...I have always used it judiciously/sparingly, and have to say, I have sometimes shuddered when I've read posts where the first reaction is to grab and give Banamine, sometimes w/o consulting with one's vet; also, it seems more 'common'to read of giving multiple doses, days in a row--again, sometimes w/o consulting w/ a vet--but sometimes, on a vet's advice, and I have wondered what the vet's reasoning may be. I understand that there CAN be times when this may indeed be the best course of action, but...how often, really? And, is a full dose by weight always required? Questions to ask when speaking to your vet, IMO. Also, I do NOT give shots into the neck, unless there is truly NO other reasonable choice. I give them by myself, always, and yes, the horses often react less to a neck shot, but I am nothing if not persistent, and with the minis, I have always managed to do it in the buttocks.Years ago, I was either told or read(don't really remember, it's been so long!), that the way the muscle fibers 'run' in the neck is not conducive to efficient drainage should a site abcess; also, when a shot causes severe soreness, it is a bigger 'issue' for the well-being of the horse if that pain is in the neck. Made sense to me, so I've stuck to butt shots whenever possible for many years. Because I have previously heard and read about the dangers of the clostridium bacteria,which is clearly nothing to fool around with,I hasten to add that nowadays,if it is genuinely called for, I DO give Banamine orally. I try to preceed, if time allows; otherwise, to follow, with a dose of something to buffer the stomach, like ranitidine, since things like Banamine and Bute are known to be very hard on it, and prime risks to cause or exacerbate ulcers. Margo
  9. What's on your mind?

  10. I know I am 'late to the party' on this thread- - but I was reminded of it when my daughter commented on seeing a retired co-worker while out at lunch in Santa Fe(where she lives; she works at the National Lab in Los Alamos). The lady introduced her to her table of friends and added that it was my daughter who'd given her the recipe for the salad she'd served them the night before--and added to Lisa that EVERYTIME she made the salad and took it anywhere, "everyone" asked for the recipe!! While driving while ago (I drove two different horses this AM; Oh, Glory, how I enjoyed it!!(have had SO much work to do here I hadn't managed to drive for a couple of WEEKS!)--it just 'jumped' into my head that there'd been a thread on the BP of LB on that subject--so without further ado, my contribution to the group of 'summer salad' recipes(though this one is easy to do and good year-round!) "Best Salad Ever" (recipe from my dear aunt, of Ft. Davis, TX) 1 pkg. cole slaw mix 2 bunches green onions Pkg. sliced or slivered almonds (at least 1/2 c.) 1 pkg oriental Ramen noodles For dressing, in a small bowl or pourable measuring cup, mix well (until the sugar is fully disolved): 2 T. sugar 3 T. cider vinegar 1/3 C. oil (I use Canola) 1/2 t. black pepper Chop onions. Mix in large bowl with cole slaw mix and 1/2-1 C. almonds. Pour dressing over, mix, refrigerated, covered, for at least several hours or overnight. JUST before serving, 'crumble' the 'square' of ramen noodles w/ your hands into the salad, mix well. Serve and enjoy! This serves a goodly number of people. It keeps well for 'second time around, though--TIP: You can make the basic salad(all EXCEPT the ramen noodles), then divide it in half, refrig. the 'second' half, break the square of noodles in half, add only half to what you will eat right away, save the rest of the noodles and add them, 'fresh', to the other half of the recipe, a day or more later! Margo
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    Easy Recipes / New Dinner Ideas

    Here is a cherished recipe given to me by a dear friend. We lost her about three years ago, but her indominable spirit lives on in my heart, and I carefully keep this great recipe in her handwriting.... It is a great choice for holiday times! I'll be making it tomorrow evening for my daughter and me for Christmas Eve and Christmas Day mornings! It's NOT lo-cal, but for the occasional special occasion, why not?? Breakfast Casserole 'Crumble' and fry 1 lb. of sausage; set aside.(I use Jimmy Dean 'Regular'.) Beat 6 eggs well, add 2 C.(1 pt.)Half n Half, and desired seasonings(i.e., salt, pepper, etc.),and mix well. In a buttered flat casserole pan, 13" x 9"[i use one of clear Pyrex], place 6 slices of FROZEN bread,spread w/ 1 jar of Kraft Old English spread. If desired, spread w/ one 4 oz. can of chopped green chiles and some chopped onion to taste [i ALWAYS add the green chile!! ; also, you can used dried chopped onion.] Pour the egg mix evenly over the bread slices; top with the crumbled cooked sausage. Cover and let set in the fridge at least 8 hours. Remove cover, bake in moderate oven until bubbly.("Moderate" means around 300-325 degrees, most places! I am at a higher altitude than most, so I use the higher temp.) Time is APPROX. 30-45 minutes. GREAT w/ salsa! This is great to make the evening before, then all you have to do is uncover and pop it into the oven the next AM! It serves 6-8 people ONCE, but keeps and reheats REALLY well, so can be breakfast for two, three, or even four, for a couple or more days during those busy holiday times -just reheat by the serving in the microwave! And it is mighty tasty! (Don't forget the green chile!! ) If you copy this, attribute it to my dear old friend Sarah C! Margo (PS-Great thread, esp. for this time of year!)
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    Some people!

    Interesting...EVERY source, either 'live' or written, that I've ever consulted, said traces should be the first to 'do up', and LAST to 'undo'. This always from sources that routinely presume the use of breeching-and relative to driving of light horses in general, not just miniature horses. The logic is that, Heaven forbid the horse get loose, the traces would keep the cart with the horse, whereas the wrap OR holddowns, and for that matter, the breeching holdback straps, would be considerably less likely to--and more likely to allow the shafts to come loose from the tug loops,possibly breaking/splintering and more likely to cause serious injury to both horse and any bystanders...Made sense to me to begin with, still does--I'll continue to hook/ unhook in that order, and advocate that others do the same. I understand the thinking behind the theory of a 'rubber band' effect, but believe that overall, it is still likely to be safer to A)attach traces first and unhook them last, and B)train to, and use, breeching, EVERYWHERE except the breed show ring(and even then, in Country, and now, the newer 'Western" Pleasure driving classes, breeching would be PERFECTLY appropriate!) As for tying to hitch(and I ALWAYS work alone)--I put on all the harness(no dangling straps, including the traces-such are always 'looped back' or loosely 'tied' to keep that from occurring), then the bridle, then the reins, looping them under the backstrap while I go to get the cart, a few steps away-I have substantial nosebands, and can snap to a ring on them(here is where a gullet strap, for everyday driving, can be VERY useful in another way: though it's primary use is to vastly lessen the likelihood that a [small-eared] horse can shake, or rub, off its bridle, which can happen in a heartbeat!!)--OR, I put a larger halter on OVER the bridle--OR-before I appeared in the 'kickoff' to the Albuq. Tricentennial in my 'homesteader' outfit and my buckboard with my pair, I bought a couple of tied rope halters. They can be put on and LEFT on underneath the bridle, as long as you are careful about adjustment/fit of both halter and bridle--for everyday driving, and work quite well. My horses also know WHOA and STAND, and I frequently hitch/unhitch them in familiar surroundings w/o tying; however, I wouldn't count on being able to do that in a distracting, active 'away-from-home' situation. I have to say--if I had a horse that was uneasy enough with being hooked that it was stepping around much at all, I'd be doing more ground driving/long lining BEFORE hooking! I want a horse pretty darn 'solid' before I attach a vehicle to it! Just me... and I know that standing quietly to be hitched does NOT necessarily guarantee that a horse will maintain that aplomb when in draft-but it IS an indicator, I believe--and I want ALL the safety 'what if's' slanted in MY favor!! Margo
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    Some people!

    It is very true that few people driving minis are aware of this safety issue; I am part of a group of VSE drivers who are practicing both for fun and to work toward doing ADTs, CDEs and the like, and only a couple of them knew of this before I brought it up...I would wholeheartedly support a motion in BOTH mini horse registries to implement a 'NEVER have the bridle off the horse when hooked' rule, with stern(as in ADS)'penalty' if disregarded; it is SUCH a safety issue, and SO often disregarded(whether from not knowing, or assuming it doesn't really matter! I applaud Fred for bringing this up in this thread; this is very often a place for learning for many, and it absolutely can't hurt for more people to learn about this safety issue--ESPECIALLY with the booming interest in driving of minis, both in and out of the show ring! Take Leia's 'word picture' to heart--I have been there when this kind of thing happened with a horse of 'ordinary' size, and it is more frightening than you can imagine. Just because a miniature horse might not do as much PROPERTY damage as, say, a draft horse, doesn't mean it wouldn't be dangerous and traumatic for horse AND humans(AND property, for that matter!) All shows also need to STATE, in their premiums, a rule about not tying a hitched horse and leaving it unattended-and then ENFORCE it, uniformly. (I have to add that it did my heart good to see MSR's post, about learning from this thread--THAT'S a plus! Nowadays, new people join here ALL the time, so it can't hurt to reiterate this kind of information! I surely hope others have learned, also...) Margo
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    Miniature Horse Clubs

    A slight correction to the info previously stated by minimule--I am a founding member of the Land of Enchantment Miniature Horse Club, now in its 18th year. Although it is(and has been from its inception), an AMHA-approved club, it has ALWAYS been completely open to membership, and participation in events such as parades and clinics, to Miniature horses up to and including 38" in height. This is a written policy in our public appearance guidelines, which can be viewed on our website -- www.miniaturehorsesofnm.com. Margo