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#1 love_casper

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Posted 04 June 2006 - 02:07 AM

edited to say: IF YOU DON'T WANT TO READ THE WHOLE STORY, I'LL SUM IT UP: HOW MANY CARROTS DO YOU FEED YOUR MINIS???!!!


okay, our vet says that Ghost is a little pudgie. He says she is almost what a mare who just had a baby should look like, but normally the foal's nursing will help that extra chubbiness go down. Ghost has no foal at her side, so nothing will help that fat come off. He says to give her plenty of excercise and to put her on a diet of just hay. The owner of the house where Ghost lives says her friends who own Thoroughbred racers think she should get a bunch of carrots every day. I think we should do what the vets says, but every time we go to see Ghost, the house owner begins harping away about how she never gets any treats, and how everybody from the race track thinks she needs carrots in her diet. Keep in mind none of them have ANY experience with minis.

One mini owner at the barn where i board my big horse doesn't feed her mini extra carrots. She says that minis have very sensitive stomachs because of their size. Her horse has coliced several times because people think he is cute and feed him too many treats. SOOOooooo, we have vet and mini owners who say no carrots, and person who knows nothing about minis saying she will give Ghost an extra handful of carrots every meal. I am hoping some of you can settle this.
This lady has given suff to Ghost that I wouldn't dream of letting her eat. She says "oh, i gave my thoroughbred a [insert something you shouldn't feed a horse here] every day for his whole life!" well, that may not effect such a big horse, but he didn't have a tiny sensitive stomach. One time, she fed Ghost a banana every day for a week and it made her very sick! we finally found out about that, and told her to stop. Of course, she came at us with the usual "i fed my thoroughbred..."

Sometimes i think she believes she owns the horse. taking her for walks, which really bugs me, as i have trouble even letting my mom or my best friends walk her. ggrrgg i am getting offtopic.gif

so I am sort of asking if i should feed her carrots, sort of hoping you will say no so that i can prove that minis are not the same as thoroughbreds, and sort of looking for advice on how to get her to stop owning my horse.

thanx for letting me vent.

Edited by love_casper, 04 June 2006 - 03:46 AM.

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Posted 04 June 2006 - 05:50 AM

If YOU don't want her to have carrots, then the lady taking care of her should NOT be giving her carrots. Maybe she doesn't take you seriously because of your age. Have you asked your Mom to talk to her? I'm not the calorie police for sure, and carrots are a better treats than a lot of stuff folks give, but if you don't want it then it shouldn't be. You said a handful of carrots? Carrots are full of sugar and do have lots of calories so a handful might be over the top.

As far as going for walks...if she wants to get Ghost out for a walk it certainly couldn't hurt, could it? Sounds like she needs that exercise.

Maybe next time your are there you could get one of her horses out and walk off with it!

She needs to understand that Ghost is YOURS, and that you pay her to take care of her according to your directions. Get Mom to intervene.

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Edited because I called Ghost a "him" in there a couple of times. Sorry. It was early morning and first cup hadn't kicked in yet.

Edited by Happy Valley, 04 June 2006 - 05:47 PM.


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Posted 04 June 2006 - 06:00 AM

QUOTE(Happy Valley @ Jun 4 2006, 06:50 AM) View Post

If YOU don't want her to have carrots, then the lady taking care of her should NOT be giving her carrots. Maybe she doesn't take you seriously because of your age. Have you asked your Mom to talk to her? I'm not the calorie police for sure, and carrots are a better treats than a lot of stuff folks give, but if you don't want it then it shouldn't be. You said a handful of carrots? Carrots are full of sugar and do have lots of calories so a handful might be over the top.

She needs to understand that Ghost is YOURS, and that you pay her to take care of him according to your directions. Get Mom to intervene.



I agree - while minis are cute and everyone wants to feed them, what happens if Ghost founders from being way overweight from the treats? Who wants to pay the bill then? Hope your mom can intervene for you...maybe a note on Ghost's stall - "doctor's orders - NO treats please".

Horses do enjoy good pats in places they cannot reach and while pats do not taste as good, I do believe they enjoy it as much - at least mine do.

My grandpa was a bad offender of the treat rule... he would bring my large pony goodies and then when I would not come with loaded pockets, she would nip me! When he saw the bruises I had, he stopped.

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Posted 04 June 2006 - 06:35 AM

love_casper,
I do give my minis carrots but only in moderation and then I am very careful to make sure they are cut lenghtwise and are small pieces. I know that it is possible for minis to choke on carrots.
Mercysmom is right that maybe you need your parents to intervene, I'm sure everyone where you board Ghost think she is adorable(and I know she is) so they all want to feed her treats but they need to understand that she is YOUR horse - try the note on Ghost's stall - "doctor's orders - NO treats please".
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Posted 04 June 2006 - 07:07 AM

Tell her you are afraid that your horse will get one hung in its throat & choke - could happen & probably has -we just don't know about it....................... If anyone here has had this happen post it, then you can honestly say you have a friend who had a horse choke on a carrot & you don't want to go that route.................. We have never fed carrots or apples to our horses. If we wanted them to have a treat they grab the grass or hand full of hay we offer just as eagerly as the carrots............. Actually we did try carrots a few times & they turned up their noses so we didn't bother any more.
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Posted 04 June 2006 - 08:03 AM

I think you are being loaded with a lot of mis-information.

I do feed carrot treats but I certainly do not go over board and feed them "bunches and bunches" of them.

I take one carrot and cut it in half lengthwise, then I dice it up and put it in a bucket. I don't encourage hand-feeding becuase I'd end up with a lot of nippers.

As far as taking the grain away and just using a diet of hay to have your mare loose some weight, there are other ways to acheive that, but I'm not the expert here on how to do that. So someone else will come along and talk to you on that I'm sure.

Have your parents handle this for you. If the house owner continues to feed your horse all kinds of stuff, that is going to build up and someday your horse is going to get very sick on you and it will be her fault.

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Posted 04 June 2006 - 10:15 AM

Horses really do not need treats, and if Ghost is a little pudgy, then she definitely doesn't need extra treats right now!

I do not give my horses carrots or apples; if I do give them a treat, I give them small peices of cold celery.

Your vet and the other mini owners are right, and the owner of the barn needs to respect how you want Ghost to be fed. yes.gif

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Posted 04 June 2006 - 11:07 AM

Thank you all for your thoughts and suggestions. Runnin back to the barn right now...
I'll tell you how it goes!
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Posted 04 June 2006 - 05:13 PM

What??? Carrots are not to be fed to minis??? ohmy.gif My guy gets carrots everytime I see him. I would say he gets about 3-5 carrots cut up at each visit. Is this harmful?? I did notice that when I cut back on the carrots, his belly seemed to go away a bit (I know carrots do contain sugar). So....besides a "bigger belly", are they harmful ??? Carrots are the ONLY treats he get...
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Posted 04 June 2006 - 06:16 PM

QUOTE(suz @ Jun 4 2006, 06:13 PM) View Post

What??? Carrots are not to be fed to minis??? ohmy.gif My guy gets carrots everytime I see him. I would say he gets about 3-5 carrots cut up at each visit. Is this harmful?? I did notice that when I cut back on the carrots, his belly seemed to go away a bit (I know carrots do contain sugar). So....besides a "bigger belly", are they harmful ??? Carrots are the ONLY treats he get...



Minis can have carrots, but too many can add to their wasteline. As carrots are mostly sugar and starch, if you want to feed them to your minis, you must feed in moderation (maybe a couple baby carrots, or half of a full-size carrot). If your horse has metabolic issues such as IR or prone to founder; then carrots are not a good idea, as you will need to watch their carbs.



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