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#1 kaprikorn

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 10:12 AM

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I need some help with a mare and if the Vet is monitoring. . .this might be for you.

I bought a mare in Oct that was in pasture w/stallion from Jan - Oct last year. I do not think the seller thought she was bred as this was a breeding with his newely purchased stallion. Anyway, took her to vet yesterday for preg check. . ."there is a baby there !"

Yeah !!!. . . . .but the vet could or would not tell me WHEN due. All she said was "It is right there, watch her. The head is "in the crown", feels nicely formed and solid" OOOKKKKAAAYYYYY. .. .what does this mean, she is due in the next few days????or next month ????? I could not get an answer, just "watch her" I have her at a friends on a monitor just in case.

She has no bag at all. She had been on pasture as I did not think she would be due within next few months. She was not showing anything. She has really gotten big over the last few weeks. She is a 35" AMHR mare bred to a 30" AMHA stallion. Vet suggested domperidone gel for her to help with milk production since she has been on fescue pasture and hay. . . .okay. . .

But still do not know when baby is due ?????

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 10:24 AM

That one is tough-sounds as though the vet thinks she may be due within the next couple of months though. We had mares on fescue one year by accident (it was a small amount in our hay that had gone unseen) and we had a lot of problems. Mares not producing milk when they should, really late foals, a LOT of dystocias (4 of 6), and 2 red bags. So you are really going to need to watch her. Since she was on fescue, she could very well go a month longer than she normally would have (like mine did) and that may be once of the reasons your vet didn't want to say when she's due.

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 10:29 AM

Unfortunately I don't think there is anyone that can give you any helpful estimate. Your vet has seen her in person & hasn't given you an expected due date almost certainly because she simply doesn't know.

Normally I would say just watch her closely for changes--making a bag is normally the best indicator, but since this mare has been on fescue she may not make a bag at all prior to foaling.

So--watch for other signs--watch for any change in position of the foal; you may be able to tell when the mare drops as the foal gets into position for foaling. Watch for changes to the mare's back end--she will get loose in the rear end; the muscles of her hindquarters will slacken and you will be able to lift her tail up more easily. Usually there is some resistance when you lift the tail straight up, but as the mare gets close to foaling slack muscles make the tail feel somewhat limp when you lift it up.

In case she does foal sooner rather than later I would suggest finding some colostrum to have on hand, in case she has none. Even with giving domperidone--that will bring on milk production, but I don't know as it does anything for colostrum?
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Posted 11 February 2012 - 12:04 PM

Good morning and happy Saturday,

The head is "in the crown", feels nicely formed and solid" OOOKKKKAAAYYYYY. .. .what does this mean, she is due in the next few days????or next month ????? I could not get an answer, just "watch her" I have her at a friends on a monitor just in case.


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Posted 11 February 2012 - 03:31 PM

I encourage you to call you vet back and ask questions such as what does "in the crown" mean to him? Ask him if he feels that the mare should be "on foal watch" or if he feels she is still a month or more away. Ask him if you should be searching for a source of colostrum for the pending foal in case mamma is affected by the fescue. Your vet should expect these questions from you and should have pretty good answers that will help clarify your questions.
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Posted 11 February 2012 - 03:33 PM

that term to me sounds like the birth isimminent !!!

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 04:49 PM

I did ask her what she meant, she just avoided me and said "I'd watch her and get some domperidone" I could not get an answer to WHEN. .she was in a hurry and left to see another client. I was kind of upset that I could not get an answer. The mare is at a friend of mine and they put a foal monitor on her for this weekend until I can get more info on Monday. I am going to call another vet Monday and see if he can answer my questions(one that has more experience)he also keeps colostrum on hand.

This baby should be really nice, sired by World Champion Silver Meadows Skywalker, a black blanket appaloosa. Nice mare, too !

Will keep everyone informed and thanks for your input !

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 04:57 PM

I did ask her what she meant, she just avoided me and said "I'd watch her and get some domperidone" I could not get an answer to WHEN. .she was in a hurry and left to see another client. I was kind of upset that I could not get an answer. The mare is at a friend of mine and they put a foal monitor on her for this weekend until I can get more info on Monday. I am going to call another vet Monday and see if he can answer my questions(one that has more experience)he also keeps colostrum on hand.

This baby should be really nice, sired by World Champion Silver Meadows Skywalker, a black blanket appaloosa. Nice mare, too !

Will keep everyone informed and thanks for your input !

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 08:08 PM

Update on mare. . .

No foal yet . .she is getting domperidom gel to counteract the fescue toxins. She is starting to bag up now, eating good and on orchard grass. The muscles are starting to relax at her tail. She is on camera and a foal monitor. . .thank you Cherie of Blue Chip Miniatures. . my best friend!!!

Will keep everyone informed. . . now. . .appaloosa or not. . .colt or filly . . .

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 08:13 PM

Update on mare. . .

No foal yet . .she is getting domperidom gel to counteract the fescue toxins. She is starting to bag up now, eating good and on orchard grass. The muscles are starting to relax at her tail. She is on camera and a foal monitor. . .thank you Cherie of Blue Chip Miniatures. . my best friend!!!

Will keep everyone informed. . . now. . .appaloosa or not. . .colt or filly . . .

Sheryl


Glad to hear she is making progress. for now, how about... Alive and healthy! And, then worry about color/pattern/sex. [Alive and healthy is all I care about this foaling season. Good thing, cause the ring test says 6 colts on the way.]

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