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#1 roxy's_mom

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 11:47 PM

Hello all! I was flipping through one of my horse magazines that I get and saw an ad for the Purina Mills WellSolve Low Starch feed. It's formulated for carbohydrate-sensitive horses. Purina Mills also makes the WellSolve Weight Control for horses who are over weight and need help maintaining a certain weight. I went onto their website for more info and it sounds like something I may need to look into for my one little girl who's slightly over weight and my other little girl who needs help maintaining her weight to help prevent another attack of laminitis that I've just recently been able to keep under control with an herbel blend from England. I emailed Purina for more help and info, so I hope to hear from them soon.

I was wondering if anyone else has heard of these two products or has used either one and what your thoughts of them were. The only problem I found was that their feeding calculator doesn't go low enough weight wise to adjust for feeding minis.
Here's their website if anyone's interested in reading more info on either product: www.wellsolveequine.com

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HERE'S THE RESPONSE I GOT FROM PURINA TODAY!!

Miniature horses, as you well know, are very efficient little animals. Excess weight and increased risk of founder sure go hand-in-hand so it is important to keep them in a moderate body condition. This requires restricting intake of feed and hay or pasture and providing regular exercise if at all possible. WellSolve products can be fed to miniature horses.
Recommended daily feeding rates would be as follows (choose either L/S or W/C and feed with hay):

WellSolve L/S (Low Starch) feed and what amount of Hay should be fed:
200 lb horse: 1.5 lbs of feed and 2 lbs of hay
300 lb horse: 2.25 lbs of feed and 3 lbs of hay

WellSolve W/C (Weight Control) feed and what amount of Hay should be fed:
200 lb horse: 1.0 lbs of feed and 2 lbs of hay
300 lb horse: 1.5 lbs of feed and 3 lbs of hay

These feeding rates would maintain current body condition with L/S but would cause weight loss with W/C. If you want to use W/C to maintain the proper weight once they lose down to that level, you would increase W/C by .5 - 1.5 lb per day, depending on the weight of the horse. These feeding rates will meet their nutritional requirements. They are estimates and individual horses may require adjustment by as much as 10% or so up or down so watch body condition and adjust accordingly.

I would recommend making any changes to the diet very gradually and divide the daily ration into as many smaller meals through the day as possible. Two meals would be the very minimum but three or four smaller meals help sensitive horses manage a smoother glucose and insulin level throughout the day.


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Posted 29 December 2008 - 12:26 AM

I've been feeding the WellSolve LS for about a month now. Really can't tell anything yet.
I was feeding the Platform feed, but you have to feed so much of that to get the proper nutrients.

It's expensive though. Running $26 a bag. I'm hoping I can control the weight on a couple of easy keepers without having to add a lot of supplements.

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 12:28 AM

I don't have any info but I also have been curious if these products would be of any use. I have heard they are pretty expensive. I'll be watching this thread for info.

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 07:50 AM

Both my mare and stallion were obese when they came here in July. I put them on the Weight Control. Both are now down to an acceptable weight and have been switch onto Stragegy. Yes the WC is pricey but I was feeding so little it really was not that much.

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 07:59 AM

I haven't used either of those, but a couple months ago switched many of our horses to a feed from our co-op that is low starch. It is formulated by Kentucky Equine Research (<--- link)and available from many mills around the country. They call it "Fat & Fiber". We switched because our a lot of our horses were just getting toooooooo fat on the senior feed and this "Fat & Fiber" is very high in nutrients and can help stretch the hay. So far, so good. The ones that were way too fat have lost and the just right ones are still just right.




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Posted 29 December 2008 - 08:21 AM

My carbohydrate sensitive (Insulin resistent) mini is now on Blue Seal Carb Guard, which I am very happy with. She gets that plus hay that was tested and is also low starch/sugar, and soaked, rinsed beet pulp. I think the Carb Guard is about 11% NSC, plus it is also very low in alfalfa which my mare seems to be sensitive to. And it is about $16 a bag.

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 08:42 AM

I was feeding the Weight Control formula to an obese pregnant mare for several months back in the summer. I couldn't tell that she was losing weight on it, so I switched her back to the Progressive Diet Balancer that I feed all the other horses. She has actually lost some weight this winter and is at a good weight now. I also felt that with the WC formula, she wasn't getting enough needed vitamins and minerals on the small amount she was being fed.
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Posted 29 December 2008 - 10:35 AM

I used the low starch kind for a few months, but was not at all impressed. It may work for really obese horses, but for my semi chubby guys it left them looking wormy (weight loss down the topline and neck area, but still a huge gut). They just didn't look healthy and they weren't acting themselves. They had very little energy. Usually when I go out to feed everyone comes running up and talks to me, but on WSLS they slowly walked up at feeding time with their heads hanging and nobody talked to me.

I have since changed their feed and they are all looking much better. I would rather mine be a little chubby than to look and act like they did on that.
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Posted 29 December 2008 - 07:04 PM

QUOTE (Steph G @ Dec 29 2008, 11:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I used the low starch kind for a few months, but was not at all impressed. It may work for really obese horses, but for my semi chubby guys it left them looking wormy (weight loss down the topline and neck area, but still a huge gut). They just didn't look healthy and they weren't acting themselves. They had very little energy. Usually when I go out to feed everyone comes running up and talks to me, but on WSLS they slowly walked up at feeding time with their heads hanging and nobody talked to me.

I have since changed their feed and they are all looking much better. I would rather mine be a little chubby than to look and act like they did on that.


Interesting that they seemed to be less excited about feeding time. I don't think I will bother with it. None of mine are obese and the cresty, fat patchy mare seems to be losing some of that by adding cinnamon. Seems like folks are having just as good results (if not better) with less expensive brands of low carb feeds.


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Posted 29 December 2008 - 10:50 PM

Thanks for all the replies everyone! I'm seeing some mixed reviews on these feeds. I'm waiting to hear back from Purina as I sent an email to them Sunday night asking some questions. I'm trying to find some feeds that will help keep my easy keeper trim and nice looking for shows and my other mare with a steady weight to keep from getting laminitis back again. If anyone else has any more info to add about these feeds please do, all help and info is much appreciated. I want my girls happy and healthy and not obese and horribly thin.

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