Worlds Smallest Horse

I have seen people in this thread boasting on thier website that they have horses with perfect conformation (and show pics) and they are clearly not anywhere near perfect, and in my opinion, also have some issues with dwarfism signs in them. Someone else mentioned the owners of Einstein marketing him "for the money", when some that have posted in this thread also market one or more of their horses "for the money". No, I do not agree with Einstein being promoted as a "perfect" Miniature Horse, but he IS well loved and in a caring home which is more than many of the horses from Championship lines found in rescue these days can say. To make comments/assumptions such as "Since I feel they are in it for the money, I am sure they have bought mares to "make babies" so they can sell them for big bucks." is totally out of line.

Mona, first of all, it was stated that they bought mares for him. Now why would one buy mares for a stud, unless they plan on breeding him? If they were not in it for the money and wanted to just love him, why would they be breeding a horse that has real problems? All of their pictures of him are photoshopped poorly, to hide the fact that he has a roached back, so they know he has problems, yet they are still promoting him as the perfect, smallest miniature STALLION, in the world.

Also, if they were not in it for the money, then why the book, now a game coming out as well as coloring books, jigsaw puzzles and anything else they can think of. There will be a whole generation of kids who think that Minis are supposed to look that way, let alone their parents.

They say he is about 24". Since they are not horse people. they probably do not know how to measure a horse at all, and are probably using a yard stick from the ground to his back and guestimating. I have had many people do that with dogs. They just do not know. So, even if he measures 24" at the last mane hair, he is only just 2 and could well be 26" when full grown. There are MANY miniature horses out there that are NOT dwarfs who measure that.

I am/was basing my comments here on what I read in this thread. I do not "follow" everything Einstein, so don't have any knowledge of where or by whom it was stated that they bought mares for him, so obviously it was something I did not see. So if in fact it IS true that they are breeding him, or planning to, no, I don't feel they should be, since I do believe he IS a dwarf. My comments were made because I see some posts in this tiopic that can be grouped right up there with the "people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones" saying.

From the pictures of him that I see on Facebook he looks to me to be around 25-26'' tall.I have two 26'' minis and they appear to stand at about the same height when compared to humans and children. I still agree that he is a dwarf. They have raised Einstein like a dog which has resulted in him acting like a spoiled brat. He is not gelded and I doubt that they will be able to handle him. He has dropped already (you can see them in his facebook pics) and I'm sure his hormones have taken over.

I am not a fan of his owners. I hope that they have not bought any "girl friends" for him.

I am however I fan of this group:

http://horse-therapy...y%20Horses.html

Their minis are petite, perfect, and appear to be well mannered. They are also known across the world and help spread literacy across the U.S.

OK, I do not wish to rain on anyone's parade, Tremor. Everyone of those little horses looked in exemplary condition and are undoubtedly well cared for, but I do think they should be introducing a retirement age of, possibly, four, for these horses, and at least two years off before they return to work. Scroll through a few pages when you have time, scroll down and you will see the slow change to ears flat in almost every picture. It would be interesting to hear what Bonny would get form one of these little showmen- I think we assume too much on behalf of our animals, sometimes. I for one am not unhappy with the way that most show horses seem to disappear at age four, or under, . Some horses love the spotlight, no doubt whatsoever in my mind I have owned one. One. That is the key word here, in all my life. One.

So, whilst I support wholeheartedly all the wonderful work these people are doing, and the dedicated workers who help them out all over the country, I cannot support the way that they do it. Sorry.

rabbitsfizz said:

OK, I do not wish to rain on anyone's parade, Tremor. Everyone of those little horses looked in exemplary condition and are undoubtedly well cared for, but I do think they should be introducing a retirement age of, possibly, four, for these horses, and at least two years off before they return to work. Scroll through a few pages when you have time, scroll down and you will see the slow change to ears flat in almost every picture. It would be interesting to hear what Bonny would get form one of these little showmen- I think we assume too much on behalf of our animals, sometimes. I for one am not unhappy with the way that most show horses seem to disappear at age four, or under, . Some horses love the spotlight, no doubt whatsoever in my mind I have owned one. One. That is the key word here, in all my life. One.

So, whilst I support wholeheartedly all the wonderful work these people are doing, and the dedicated workers who help them out all over the country, I cannot support the way that they do it. Sorry.

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Everything in life could use some improvements. Unfortunatley people don't keep their eyes open wide enough (and long enough) to do so.

I looked at his Facebook page. They are using him as a "celebrity". Notice how hardly any pictures show his back, probably because he has a roach.

You know what they say about assumptions, and there seem to be quite a lot of them on this thread.

I am assuming, but with good reason. I wouldn't be the first time if I am wrong

Is he cute? Yes, Is he a dwarf? Probably. Are they promoting him for the $$? possibly.... Would I use him as a stallion if i owned him? No. But he looks happy and healthy and well cared for. I personally don't care how much they promote him... It doesn't hurt me at all.

I have not followed Einstiens first year and have only seen several pictures of him when he was young. Im not on facebook to see any recent photos so Im not going to comment on his being or not being a dwarf. I will say that if someone came and looked at any of my horses and said they would like to write a childrens book or develope a game, movie or ice cream and name it after my horse. I would sign up immediatly...they could take all the pictures they wanted and pay me a little royalty....let me spend the extra $$$ on more horsey stuff. Who cares as long as the horse is well cared for...I wouldnt care if they picked the horse with the thickest neck, stifle problem, little eyes...I wouldnt care!! I would Not say...."oh maybe you should go pick out so and sos horse because after all its a much better looking horse...and it was top 10 at Nationals...blah blah blah.

I would just take the check, maybe build a new palace and let them promote my horse anyway they want to and I would continue to love on my new little now famous rockstar!!

All very true, but I would NOT breed him!

A friend of mine, in a similar situation with a known dwarf, yes, she is happy to do "pony parties" and go on TV, but she says right out he is a dwarf, not to be bred, going to be gelded ASAP. I think what is really getting up our noses is the fact that, a) he is a COLT a yearling COLT, not a stallion by any stretch (although I realise the distinction is regional) b) he is not breeding material c) he is now quite evidently not the smallest horse in the WORLD, he is not even the smallest horse in America, any more, he is just very small, very slight.

For myself, I should really like to see him gelded and living with another horse, instead of the dog, which still looks very wary of him, to me, and does nothing to socialise him. He is not too small to run with a herd, I am sure there are plenty of people on here who could lend them some geldings of a similar size to keep him company- but hey, that would show he is not unique!

So he is "suffering" albeit to a very small extent, in that there is no way a healthy yearling colt is going to be happy with just a dog to keep him company.

There are much more important things to be concerned with than Einstein who appears to have a good home. I don't know what Einstein is or what he isn't, but the way I see it he is very well cared for. If you all want to bash someone, why not bash the people who are out there really hurting the breed by over producing minis by the hundreds on these big farms and leaving those that don't sell them to starve to death or shipped to Mexico? There's plenty of those people around but yet may be considered a "popular" farm. Pa-leese....And what about the over-zealous people who are overworking these little guys until they drop in their tracks and beating the crap out of them to win a lousy ribbon or a title? Don't get me started about the ones that say "must sell to make room for new foals".

Also a fan of the Gentle Carousel!

I too am a total fan of Gentle Carousel! Kudos to them for the work they do and the quality of their horses! It's darn difficult to breed for tiny and still maintain balance and good conformation. I applaud them for bringing smiles to faces of those that are suffering or are in less fortunate circumstances. Their pictures say it all.