Reasoning for pot bellies???
Posted 02 November 2010 - 03:07 PM
Posted 02 November 2010 - 03:09 PM
A severely obese horse can have a pot belly, but it is usually accompanied by fat elsewhere. Think "beer gut" versus "starving Ethiopian child".
Posted 02 November 2010 - 03:15 PM
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Posted 02 November 2010 - 06:03 PM
Posted 02 November 2010 - 06:28 PM
As to the protein question, I don't think you will be feeding too much protein with hay unless you feed straight alfalfa. The legume hays have very high protein contents which can be in excess. Grass hays usually don't have that issue.
My favorite grass hays are Orchard and Timothy hay, but they have to be not-too-stemmy.
I personally would avoid weedy hay (and thistles) if possible just because I've known a couple horses to get mouth abscesses. One got a thistle under it's tongue and it worked it's way out of the bottom of his jaw by the time it was done, pretty gross.
Some hays can be gassy, and cause a bloated look.
As to the "old man gut" well that is pretty common! It's much easier to keep a young horse fit and tucked up. That's why a lot of the horses that are showing in halter are youngsters. It's by no means impossible to get a fit-looking older horse, it's just a tiny bit harder as their metabolisms slow down.
Posted 02 November 2010 - 07:22 PM
That's where I start. If you have a fast growth spurt, that will make pot bellies happen as well - I have a baby who is 6 months old right now and am fighting keeping up with his nutritional needs.
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Posted 02 November 2010 - 08:46 PM
Posted 03 November 2010 - 12:07 AM
On the baby I would do a 5 day in a row de-worming with Safe_Guard which is pretty good at deflating a belly. But a belly on one so young can also be ulcers which would be on the top of my list as well. I always treat babies for ulcers at weaning before they show symptoms and add probios too.
Don't discount the dirt either.
however I was told that they would pick out what they wanted.
People say that a lot but I don't think that's fair at all to do to an animal. If they aren't supposed to eat it, then why give it to them? Its too late once they have already got the nasties stuck in their mouths so why enable them to go through that pain in the first place. Pick through it for them before you serve it.
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Posted 03 November 2010 - 07:05 AM
I am glad Alfalfa cubes were mentioned, I was thinking about using them since reading this discussion, I do have concerns with our hay. Locals (I must say mostly cattle people, I married into those cattle men!) are the ones that brushed it off as nothing, and these are the first horses I have ever owned. So should I use the cubes instead of hay, and how much? I do want to show in the spring, and have shown once last year. So I am trying to find to balance to have nice show animals. I do have a dry lot that I let my "show" animals (I do have a couple of broad mares that are on pasture) out on as I was told that unlimited grass will cause a belly as well. I really appreciate you all giving suggestions Thank you!!!!!
Posted 03 November 2010 - 08:51 AM
The only time you may be able to worm some and not ohers is to have a fecal wxam done on each and every horse to see what the parasite types and levels are.
As far as ulcers, there is a paste called ulcergaurd, there is another called gastrgaurd, there is one that is the equivelant pepto for horses called neighlox, you can give called renitidine, this can be purchased for people, crushed up and given to horses.
There are many others that are very well versed on ulcer remedies, hopefully they chime in.
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